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Innula Zenovka

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Or he's just making it up, for whatever reason.

I can easily believe he's a total jerk, or that he thinks his fans want to believe he's a total jerk, but I find it less easy to believe that the daughter's gynecologist went along with this nonsense for so long.

Is the HIPPA privacy rule not supposed to provide the daughter with some sort of protection against this kind of thing?

Furthermore, on my admittedly cursory reading of this, Adolescent Confidentiality and Electronic Health Records - ACOG (which I assume is the professional body whose standards apply to the daughter's gynecologist), the daughter would anyway enjoy medical confidentiality as a "mature minor" (unless she suffers from some serious mental disability that renders that inappropriate).
 

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Well, yes, he could be making it up, which is almost just as bad. Or his daughter "gave" permission for his presence during the desk part of the visit. Or the doctor is a family friend, or a religious type that agrees with this type of doting father attitude. 40% of US would still vote for Trump; There must be a few gynaecologists in there. Just because it goes against the oath, if there is no complaint...

I also would have a hard time believing a gynaecologist would do this -here-, I'm not disagreeing with you, but I also can believe this can easily happen in some communities. They may simply say that the daughter insisted on his presence.

Or as you say, he's making it up. A nutter who's bragging about his "fatherly" concern and strict parenting.
 
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Is the HIPPA privacy rule not supposed to provide the daughter with some sort of protection against this kind of thing?
How does the HIPAA Privacy Rule apply to minors?
Answer: Before a child reaches the age of majority, which is 18 years old in most states, he cannot legally exercise his rights granted by the HIPAA Privacy Rule. Minors’ parents or guardians act as personal representatives under special patient considerations. The most important thing to note is that the Privacy Rule grants parents access to their children’s medical records. As such, a health care provider handing over sensitive information about a patient under the age of 18 to his parent would not be in violation of the law.
 
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Yes, but according the the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists,
To address confidentiality concerns that might pose a barrier to care, all states and the District of Columbia have created minor consent laws giving minor adolescents the right to receive health care without parental consent or notification for certain services. These services may include substance abuse treatment, screening and treatment for sexually transmitted infections (STIs), pregnancy prevention and care, and sometimes abortion, mental health care, and emergency care .

Adolescents also have rights to receive health care independently under legal principles such as mature minor and emancipated minor rulings. A mature minor is defined as an adolescent younger than the age of majority who, even if living at home as a dependent, demonstrates the cognitive maturity to give informed consent. The capacity of an adolescent to consent for health care as a mature minor is influenced by the minor’s developmental maturity, prior experience with illness, the gravity of the current illness, and the risks of proposed therapy. The right of a mature minor to consent to medical care without prior parental consent has been recognized in many states. Emancipation is a legal procedure whereby minors become legally responsible for themselves and their parents are no longer responsible (financially or otherwise); hence the minor can consent to medical, dental, or psychiatric care. Statutes vary by state, but a minor may become emancipated when she marries, serves in active duty in the U.S military, or obtains a declaration from the court. Care under mature minor and emancipated rulings is provided without parental consent or notification, although the physician will frequently work with the adolescent to involve parents in decision making, risk reduction, and ongoing health care.

Minor adolescents’ right to confidentiality generally is assumed when there is a right to consent. However, there are some situations, like obtaining an abortion, when it may not be assumed.
It certainly sounds to me as if the gynecologist's conduct , if t's accurately described, is quite likely to at the very least against the ACOG's policy on patient confidentiality and quite possibly illegal, too.
 

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The practice does still take place in the United States and in other countries around the world -- including Afghanistan, where until last year a law made failure of a virginity test by women and girls punishable by up to three months in jail -- with a recent Marie Claire investigation deeming it a "global crisis" that affects women in nearly a dozen nations. In October 2018, the United Nations Human Rights commission, UN Women and World Health Organization urged a ban on the practice, calling it a "medically unnecessary, and often times painful, humiliating and traumatic practice."
 

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From the Washington Post -- makes the point that, while he may be an outlier, T.I.'s attitudes are not that uncommon in the US.

Vagina panic is still a central theme to modern fatherhood.

There’s a spectrum, of course.

Fathers: If you have ever escorted your daughter to a “purity ball,” or presented her with a promise ring, or done anything else implying that her virginity is something she should preserve for you rather than for herself, you’re definitely on this spectrum.

If you’ve ever strolled over to your daughter’s homecoming date and told him to have her home by 11 because you have a concealed-carry permit and a brother in the CIA, heh heh heh — you are, I deeply regret to inform you, on this spectrum.

If you’ve ever begun a phrase, “As the father of daughters . . . ,” implying that you didn’t realize that women were people until one sprung from your loins and that you didn’t care what men did to them until one did it to your babygirl — well. You might not be on the spectrum, but you’re spectrum-adjacent; you’re just a few Zip codes away from Hymenland. The phrase comes from a paternal impulse to protect daughters from harm. So does vagina panic, except the hymen doesn’t need protection, because sex isn’t inherently harmful when a grown woman chooses it.
ETA: Are Purity Balls a thing anywhere outside the US? The whole idea that the daughter's virginity is something belonging to the father, which he protects until agreeing to present it to her eventual husband, seems part of the whole mindset that leads to "honour killings" in some communities.
 
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A well-known Russian historian has confessed to murdering his lover, his lawyer says, after he was found in a river with a backpack containing a woman's arms.

Oleg Sokolov, 63, was drunk and fell into the river as he tried to dispose of body parts, Russian media said.

Police then found the decapitated body of Anastasia Yeshchenko, 24, at his home in the city of St Petersburg.
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This is normal. Maybe.
I find it curious that, from pictures of the tank, it doesn't appear to be painted in the livery of it's organisation or to have any identifying marks.

So they can have the added bonus of terrorizing the neighborhood and making more potholes in the NY streets to please Dear Leader. 😡
 
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