The Russia-Ukraine War has begun

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Oh, him.

It's pretty rare for me ignore someone, it's not a tool I generally reach for so it wasn't top of mind.
Same here, I generally don't need technical assistance to ignore someone.

Also, screwdrivers.
 
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Well, just think of it as "Yaay! We're relevant and popular enough to be assigned a Russian Agitprop handler." We've had at least a couple now, haven't we? I mean aside from Ae...um, whoever.
 

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Soen, you've commented 3 times (so far...) about a post from someone you have on ignore. Seems ironic, huh?
 
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Time Magazine has quite the disturbing report about Biden's Ukraine policy.

According to it the US gave Ukraine bad advise and used Ukraine as proxy and pawn sacrifice to weaken Russia. Biden never talking about getting the occupied territories back was on purpose, because the US didn't believe in that ability, even with big help from the West. Instead the more important object was for Ukraine to survive as sovereign, democratic country free to pursue integration with the West.

Biden also wanted America and its allies to stay united, avoiding a direct conflict between Russia and NATO. Time Magazine thinks Biden achieved all these 3 goals.

Eric Green, who served on Biden's National Security Council told and is one of the sources of the report: "It’s unfortunately the kind of success where you don’t feel great about it. Because there is so much suffering for Ukraine and so much uncertainty about where it’s ultimately going to land."

Also Ukraine thought the US never gave the support it needed on purpose. So Biden embedded his own goals in the conflict, which were not exactly in sync with Ukraine's. He used Ukraine for his own purposes, supporting and also betraying it at the same time.

 
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Trump has ordered a pause on all military aid to Ukraine. The freeze will remain until Trump determines that Ukraine is making a genuine effort toward peace.

Musk disabling Ukraine's Starlink access is also on the table, which would made many drones unusable.

 
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Trump stopped the American intelligence sharing with Ukraine. He also banned the UK from sharing US intelligence with Ukraine as well.
 

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Just checked in to see where this forum is at on the Ukraine subject. It seems that continuing the war and death is the popular opinion.
I know you don't learn but I'm responding for the benefit of any onlookers. Putin could pull out of the war any time and had no need to go in, in the first place. Expecting Ukraine to end the war by surrendering is pure victim blaming and would only embolden Putin's ambitions. Not letting Putin take Ukraine or at least not at a reasonable cost was essential for containing his ambitions. Anyone who's not contrarian to the point of insanity knows this.
 

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I know you don't learn but I'm responding for the benefit of any onlookers. Putin could pull out of the war any time and had no need to go in, in the first place. Expecting Ukraine to end the war by surrendering is pure victim blaming and would only embolden Putin's ambitions. Not letting Putin take Ukraine or at least not at a reasonable cost was essential for containing his ambitions. Anyone who's not contrarian to the point of insanity knows this.
Aeon's been all in on abuser shit forever.
 

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He does have a need. He needs those minerals. He also needs a broader border through which to absorb Eastern Europe.
Yes, he's got a need, but a broader border to Europe it is not.

This is a talk called "The Russian Grab" I often pull out from 2017, where Peter Zeihan back then explained

a) how the USSR managed the defense of their vast size and where,
b) that while Russia is smaller, the overall situation remains and method remains unchanged, but Russia only was able to close some of the 9 gaps the USSR could,
c) that Russia is an aging society, and starting with 2022 the amounts of young men able to serve will drastically decrease,
d) that Russia considers itself a country on the brink of fading away, being in its last generation and being attacked in the near to mid future, which has the idea though that if they could control all gaps again they could last much, much longer.

So back then he identified the land border with Ukraine as one of the biggest issues Russia had with securing its borders, and if Russia wants to do something they would need to do it until 2022 because of its demographics.

Sadly this aged too well.

 
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Plot twist: Bloomberg telling Ukraine has no viable deposits rate earth, its just a rumor. And Ukraine swindling to Trump. It has some of the geology, where it can be found, but to be sure first tedious exploration is required.

Did the idea of this deal come from the Ukraine or from The Grand Master Of The Best Deals Ever™ himself?
If Trump would come and ask me to sell him the Brooklyn Bridge or else.. I would sell it to him too, no questions asked.
 

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