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That painting where Trump is trying really hard to not look longingly at Nixon: WTF is he (Trump) holding in his dainty left hand? Is he drinking out of a vase? Or is it some sort of stick to hold back the rabble?

Why were Coolidge, Grant et al not invited, and have to hang out in the background?

Is the woman who's starting to approach holding a shotgun?
 

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Also, I have an issue with both paintings. I just don't see Jackson hanging out all buddybuddy with modern Democrats, but more importantly, I can't see Teddy Roosevelt not beating the crap out of Twitler; the man trying to sell off all of those parks that Teddy advocated for.
Oh yeah, I almost forgot he was a D after everything he did.

Which brings up a question: why does donnie have a picture of him in the oval office? After all, he and the rest of his bunch always point out that Lincoln was a R. Despite the fact that his views would have seen him drummed out of the party long ago.

If party, not views, are what matter WTF donnie. Right? (not that the Ds want him either)
 

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It's okay to use the F word; not the one you think. The book should make for interesting reading.

How Fascism Works review: a vital read for a nation under Trump
I've just finished reading it. It's certainly very thought-provoking, though in some ways I found his analysis rather unsatisfying, for reasons I can't quite pin down as yet. I think it's to do with the way he sometimes seemed to elide the distinction between fascism and authoritarianism (fascism, I would say, is a subset of authoritarianism). Similarly, he often seems to conflate attitudes which fascism espouses or exploits with fascism itself. For example, while I would certainly agree with him that fascism idealises fixed and hierarchical gender roles, it doesn't necessarily follow that all sexists are fascists. Again, I would say that fascists are a subset of sexists.

Certainly I found it far less persuasive than Timothy Snyder's book The Road To Unfreedom, which covers broadly similar ground.

Nevertheless, I would certainly recommend it. It's well worth reading. There's a 5 minute video about it in the NYT:

 

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I've just finished reading it. It's certainly very thought-provoking, though in some ways I found his analysis rather unsatisfying, for reasons I can't quite pin down as yet. I think it's to do with the way he sometimes seemed to elide the distinction between fascism and authoritarianism (fascism, I would say, is a subset of authoritarianism). Similarly, he often seems to conflate attitudes which fascism espouses or exploits with fascism itself. For example, while I would certainly agree with him that fascism idealises fixed and hierarchical gender roles, it doesn't necessarily follow that all sexists are fascists. Again, I would say that fascists are a subset of sexists.

Certainly I found it far less persuasive than Timothy Snyder's book The Road To Unfreedom, which covers broadly similar ground.

Nevertheless, I would certainly recommend it. It's well worth reading. There's a 5 minute video about it in the NYT:

Thank you so very much for that (as usual) astute review of the book. You've given me much to think about as I read it. I agree with your observations, in general, and will certainly have them in the back of my mind while I read the book.

I am also going to take steps to read "The Road To Unfreedom". Thank you for that suggestion.
 
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I wasn't really sure which thread this would be appropriate in. I (using an HD antenna) have been, unfortunately, exposed to loads and loads of political advertisements leading up to the November mid-terms. One thing I have noticed is that, consistently, Republicans are attempting to look as if they are the party of wanting healthcare for all Americans. Here are their records. Do with it, as you will.

Here’s a list of every vulnerable House Republican who voted to gut pre-existing conditions coverage
 
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Trump is a real business man, right? RIGHT?

The U.S. budget deficit grew to $779 billion in Donald Trump’s first full fiscal year as president, the highest since 2012 amid tax cuts and spending increases.

The budget gap for the 12 months through September was 17 percent wider than the same 12-month period a year earlier, as spending rose 3.2 percent and revenue gained just 0.4 percent, according to a Treasury Department report released Monday. The deficit as a share of total economic output was 3.9 percent in fiscal 2018, up 0.4 percentage point from the prior year. The government’s fiscal year runs from Oct. 1 to Sept. 30.

More: Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

Seems he's keen on repeating his success story he had back then in Atlantic City. The last year the federal budget was balanced and had some surplus was 2000; since then it has always been in debt.
 

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Wow, can I just say that this has to be the most UN-presidential and venal creature we have ever had hold the office of thee Presidency? I've heard the Nixon tapes. Nixon had nothing on this man.

Also, didn't he choose to have sexual relations with what he now calls "Horseface" Guess he is saying his taste sucks?
 
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I've just finished reading it. It's certainly very thought-provoking, though in some ways I found his analysis rather unsatisfying, for reasons I can't quite pin down as yet. I think it's to do with the way he sometimes seemed to elide the distinction between fascism and authoritarianism (fascism, I would say, is a subset of authoritarianism). Similarly, he often seems to conflate attitudes which fascism espouses or exploits with fascism itself. For example, while I would certainly agree with him that fascism idealises fixed and hierarchical gender roles, it doesn't necessarily follow that all sexists are fascists. Again, I would say that fascists are a subset of sexists.
One of the added bonuses of seeing Innula's posts is finding words I have to google. I'd seen 'elide' before here and there but always managed to let it slip by without looking it up.:)
 

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Perfect. It's only missing his boss. Who is the animated guy in the far back right.
 

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Trump is a real business man, right? RIGHT?

The U.S. budget deficit grew to $779 billion in Donald Trump’s first full fiscal year as president, the highest since 2012 amid tax cuts and spending increases.

The budget gap for the 12 months through September was 17 percent wider than the same 12-month period a year earlier, as spending rose 3.2 percent and revenue gained just 0.4 percent, according to a Treasury Department report released Monday. The deficit as a share of total economic output was 3.9 percent in fiscal 2018, up 0.4 percentage point from the prior year. The government’s fiscal year runs from Oct. 1 to Sept. 30.

More: Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

Seems he's keen on repeating his success story he had back then in Atlantic City. The last year the federal budget was balanced and had some surplus was 2000; since then it has always been in debt.
Of course he will just blame that on Obama. All the good economic news was his own doing.

In addition to the dichotomy it makes you wonder how long 'it was Obama's fault' will work for him.
 

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The New Yorker asks, Is Fraud Part of the Trump Organization’s Business Model? (spoiler alert -- very probably).

The article draws heavily on a joint investigation by journalists from Pro Publica and WNYC, The Trump Family Lied to Push Their Deals Around the World. And They Profited.
I read that yesterday, as well. It certainly looks like a very concerted effort of fraud including on the part of both Don Jr and Ivanka. It happened far too consistently to be, "Oops, we made some mistakes."
 
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