Covenant Dispute

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

Awwww
This whole thread made me feel smooshy and nostalgic. Rants, witty even biting replies, threats of reporting, derails, name dropping and chest puffing, more derails, worrisome comparisons to RL scenarios, gentle teasing and inside jokes, only to get back on topic again. Well written pages I can escape reality too.
This is what made me fall in love with you all those years ago.

I was wondering if I should have texted you some Quad City DJs.

 

[Pancake]

I was wondering if I should have texted you some Quad City DJs.

I‘ve been distracted setting the world on fire but you know I’m only a text away.

 

[Essence Lumin]

You are missing the point entirely. Because the local-restaurant knows that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, they do not serve the bad burger in the first place.

The point is maybe most places would, but if you happened to go to the one that would not you wouldn't have a lot of recourse.

 

[Pancake]

Where do y’all find all this food to feed them? SRSLY/ Does it grow on trees in your back gardens?

I finished Reddit yesterday so...

 

[CronoCloud Creeggan]

I wanted my residence to have the theme of a clubhouse, for the sake of nostalgia, from when I was playing ponygirl-polo and my team was Appaloosa. So I called the land Appaloosa Polo Private Clubhouse, and I had a flagpole with a flag that had an appaloosa horse, and a trophy on my fireplace-mantle. He said I had to change the name, and get rid of the flagpole and the trophy. I said, "It's not a club, or a clubhouse, it's just named that. If I hang a sign on my door in real-time that says 'Flying-W', does it magically change my apartment into a ranch. Anybody can have a flagpole on their house and a trophy on their fireplace, it doesn't make it a clubhouse. Since it's adult-residential, can I to change the name to Fuck-Off&Die?"

They evicted me for "disrespecting" the staff, because, in Katya's judgment, it was not a legitimate question, but an insult.

Acidic said that Linden ToS says that you rent from private-renters "at your own risk", so he can do whatever he wants.

Former Estate Manager here. Everything you just wrote set off the "trouble-prone renter" vibes for me.

It seems his right, because I didn't even get the usual form-letter from Linden saying they are looking into it. But the fact of the matter is, it's easy to cost him more than 2200 in lost business with just a bad-review on his marketplace-ad. So they are really just being vindictive.

LL does NOT intervene in resident disputes.

A covenant is a two-way agreement, and they are obligated to honor their part of it, same as me.

A covenant isn't a contract and you can't treat it as one.

All I asked for is refund of the weekly-rent, that I had paid mere hours before. And I promised them, if they do not pay it, I will cost them more money than that. And I don't need any army from here to do it. I only takes one bad-review to cost them one customer, and they have lost the 2200L, and then some. I am going to stuff these losses down their arrogant-throats for as long as they stay in business, to deter them from ripping-off other people.

You should never expect a refund. There are some Land Barons who do, but you should NEVER expect it, especially after you make a threat like that.

Your logic is flawed too. At least five people on this very thread have said that my question (Can I name the land Fuck-Off & Die?) was a rude insult directed at the landlord's agent, and I rebutted that by saying, "Anybody who knows me ......." That is pretty concrete and straight-forward. "They think it was an insult, not a question" is an undisputed fact. "It was an insult, not a question" is merely an opinion, and in this case, an incorrect one.

It doesn't matter what you think, or what you think the "facts" are, it matters what the Estate Owner thinks, because ultimately it is their land and their rules.

1. I wanted to have a house that had a style similar to that of a clubhouse, not a club, for the sake of nostalgia. That is my right.
2. There was no club, and no traffic. It didn't even look like a club. It did look something like a clubhouse. It simply was named with the words club and clubhouse, which is not a violation of the covenant, as written.

With pretty much everything you write, you're reminding me of the types trouble-prone rules-lawyering tenants. The kind always demanding some kind of special service. Always asking to swap parcels every other week. Demanding pieces of parcels be added to their own, and then removed the next week. Having disputes with other tenants, using alts to stir up trouble, that sort of thing.

I am not arguing with you, I am agreeing with you. I am acting like a bully. I am bullying the bullies back, but bigger and better. That's how I operate, in real-time and in SL. And a lot of people have messed with me once, learned their lesson, and never did it again. Don't mess with Kimba, she has sharp edges.

This does not help your position with us, many of us have experience being Estate Owers or Estate Managers, Venue owners or Venue managers. One of the major unspoken rules of SL is this: "Do not annoy the people who have actual land/group based powers, it never ends well."

I don't start a fight, unless I am certain that I am right. So I rarely admit that I was wrong. And I wasn't wrong in this case.

Doesn't matter about wrong or right in this situation, the Estate Owner has absolute power to ban people they think are or might be trouble-prone.

I did read the covenant, and did not break the covenant.

Doesn't matter, the covenant is not a contract.

Wow, that's real insightful. Based on the ugliness of your avatar displayed on this thread, I think it is fair to doubt that you know your donkey from a hole in the ground.

Oh no she did not! -- Damian, "Mean Girls" (after Cady insults Janis)

Guess I won't be eating lunch at the popular kids' table.

You can't sit with us! -- Gretchen Weiners, "Mean Girls" (of course she's saying that the former Queen Bee, Regina George.)

In real-time, if my landlord believed that I had broken the lease-agreement,

Irrelevant, SL is not RL.

But, instead of a legal-system with a means to seek redress for suffering tortious-offense, this particular-agreement has no clear way to be appealed. Not only does the lessee seem to have no redress, but the landlord knows the lessee has no good form of redress. Therefore, not only is the landlord not motivated to negotiate, or compromise - they are amotivated to do so. The easiest way for the landlord to deal with it, and the best monetary outcome for the landlord is the same thing: Evict without refund, and rerent the parcel. Occam's razor.

Yes, this is why One Does Not Annoy the Estate Owner/Managers, which you did.

In the Homeric Dialogues, the question is posed to Socrates

A PRETENTIOUS Rules Lawyer.

and agreed with the righteousness of my activism.

You're not an activist. You're a whiny butthurt former tenant who did the thing smart oldbies know to not do: "Annoy the Estate Owner Enough to Get Rid of You."

We're maybe the wrong audience -- most of the regulars here, including me, are, or have been, landowners or estate managers, and we've all had customers we've decided are going to be more trouble than the rent is worth, so several aspects of your account of events have, I suspect, set alarm bells ringing for some of us.

Total Agreement, it set off alarm bells for me.

 

[Free]

If anyone needs an elawyer, my phone is off the hook.

 

[Bartholomew Gallacher]

Me taking some lessons from this guy. Granted, I have not reached his mastery yet, but practice makes purrfect, righty right? Anyway I am quite satisfied with the reactions so far.

 

[Lady Darnk Juniorette]

If anyone needs an elawyer, my phone is off the hook.

DON'T BRAG ABOUT YOUR COOL PHONE!!!!

 

[Free]

DON'T BRAG ABOUT YOUR COOL PHONE!!!!

 

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

Me taking some lessons from this guy. Granted, I have not reached his mastery yet, but practice makes purrfect, righty right? Anyway I am quite satisfied with the reactions so far.

It really was quite good, right down the center line of Poe's Law.

 

[Sid]

Most of the hot air seems out of this thread by now.

 

[Monica Dream]

In The Old Days when a thread hit page nine it would just be heating up ... *wistful sigh*

...but they don't make 'em like they used to any more

 

[Serendipidy Haven]

This all smells to coffee.

 

[Argent Stonecutter]

I know that, but you are not my target-audience.

Then what are you here for? Also, the term is "real life" not "real time".

 

[Kimba]

Then what are you here for? Also, the term is "real life" not "real time".

That is your opinion. Second Life is as real as you let it be, so I, and many people from Old Gor differentiate between the equally real forms of life as virtual-time and real-time.

What most of the other recent posters are expressing now is a conservative preference for property-rights over human rights. The person has no rights, and must be subservient to the landlord as in a feudal-system. I'm not a peasant. I assert my rights.

If I had been a problem-tenant, they would have said so. I'm a wolverine. Don't fuck with me, you'll never see me. Come after me, I'll rip your throat out.

 

[Free]

Old Gor

So if there's an Old Gor, does that mean there's a New Gor? And do they call it Neogor?

 

[Pancake]

Old Gor

Someone rang?

 

[Sid]

Yay, there still is something left in this thread!!!

 

[Pancake]

So if there's an Old Gor, does that mean there's a New Gor? And do they call it Neogor?

Gor Nouveau has a ring to it.

 

[Free]

Gor Nouveau has a ring to it.

Until you realize someone is using it: Gor Nouveau Testament - Apps on Google Play