Coup in the USA?

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The Federalist Society is almost solely responsible for the glut of unqualified, right wing judges we now have in our federal court system, including the US Supreme Court. They have been working behind the scenes for decades to get us the point we are at right now, including backing the radical right legislators currently in power.
Yep, them and the Heritage Society, with the Federalist Society being more culpable and effective, though they usually work in tandem. Ever take a look at just how many of our current Supreme Court judges are current and/or former members? It's not just tied to the Supreme Court, either. Many of those Federal judges also have ties.

Dated 2017 and all following justices have clear ties, and three of them have ties to the Bush legal team in 2000. Roberts, Kavenaugh and ACB.

It feels an awful lot like the rich and powerful version of the "old boy" society and almost as if they cannot make their bones without espousing the Federalist Society views of how our justice system should work as well as reading of the Constitution. One thing they espouse is that the Constitution is to be read literally, as though it is not a living document, calling themselves originalists as though our forefathers could have foreseen a man sitting as a sniper in a hotel in Las Vegas killing 70+ people within under a minute. That, by any definition, does not mean anything remotely close to a well-regulated militia.

We have Amendments made for a reason in that our original Constitution was deficient, particularly in civil rights areas regarding slavery, voting rights, rights of an accused person and so on. It is meant to be revisited, not thought of as the be all and end all.

The Federalist Society is one of those incredibly outsized power organizations intent upon keeping those in power, in power.

 
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Best new nick: Off brand Sarah Palin.




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Also, here is the thing; a lot of even the more skilled insurrectionists were patsies; they were radicalized by the american media like Fox, Brietbart, InfoWars and by our politicians.

Those are the ones who need to pay the highest price for this crime; or they will just keep doing it, and more people will be radicalized.
The question is how though, they will uphold the sacrosanct cow of free speech. Right now they can babble whatever they want, there is no price to pay yet. They need to be made accountable for the follow up costs of their lies.
 
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Of COURSE they're going to expect pardons...

Angeli "accepted President Trump's invitation to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue to the Capitol," Watkins said in a statement. “Mr. Chansley is an American; he served honorably in the U.S. military. He has zero criminal history. He is a lover of nature, routinely practices meditation, is an active practicer of yoga and eats only organic food. He took seriously the countless messages of President Trump. He believed in President Trump. Like tens of millions of other Americans, Chansley felt -- for the first time in his life -- as though his voice was being heard.”
If this is his attorney's "legal" argument, it reads like "He is a dupe. And not too bright a one, at that." It's the "President Trump told us to kill the Vice President and assorted bad politicians, so of course we went to do that" defense. The plea to Trump for a pardon is just wonderful, wonderful gravy.
 

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Of COURSE they're going to expect pardons...



If this is his attorney's "legal" argument, it reads like "He is a dupe. And not too bright a one, at that." It's the "President Trump told us to kill the Vice President and assorted bad politicians, so of course we went to do that" defense. The plea to Trump for a pardon is just wonderful, wonderful gravy.
I wouldn't expect Trump to pardon any of them, as his current modus operandi is self-protection, as evidence by that staff-written video released recently. He is distancing himself from them after having incited them, all in the name of protecting himself, from further legal troubles.

They are about to learn that Trump doesn't care for anyone but Trump, and perhaps, but not even guaranteed, his close family.

Just let him try to pardon himself. That is going to be challenged. If that were ever allowed we might as well have a king.
 

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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced that she has asked Retired Lt. Gen. Russel Honoré “to lead an immediate review of security infrastructure, interagency processes and command and control” at the Capitol complex following last week's deadly attack.

"We must subject this whole complex to scrutiny in light of what happened and the fact that the inauguration is coming," Pelosi said.

Pelosi also said there is "strong interest" in Congress for creating a 9/11- style commission to investigate the siege.
 

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Of COURSE they're going to expect pardons...



If this is his attorney's "legal" argument, it reads like "He is a dupe. And not too bright a one, at that." It's the "President Trump told us to kill the Vice President and assorted bad politicians, so of course we went to do that" defense. The plea to Trump for a pardon is just wonderful, wonderful gravy.
This is getting very close to the bit where that Pizzagate guy discovers there are no children there, and there's no basement either, and says “The intel on this wasn’t 100 percent.”
 

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Yay! If it was found a tool crime the FBI might be autioning off a cheap private jet in the near future.
I might put a bid on the coup jet. Not a large bid, but...
 
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If he does, will the press report it as proof they were doing more than protesting?
Probably not - BotFC was chastizing the media for trying to make these guys into well trained heroes in the last video I saw.... besides, they are not just white but also white supremacists and fascists, so of course they weren't doing anything wrong.
 
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