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It is an American South thing. Hoppin' John is a spicy black eyed peas dish. The peas are simmered with smoked pork ... usually a ham hock or bacon. Celery, onion, bell pepper - which Dakota probably knows is called Trinity. Herbs and some fairly hot pepper sauce, top with scallions and serve over rice. If you are hard core you serve it with collard greens. Very good and supposed to bring you good luck if eaten on New Years Day.
And if it doesn't bring good luck, at least it will bring on a symphony orchestra in my house - the entire wind section!
 

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Besides making the black eyed peas ...

I have a garden full of baby collard greens right now, getting ready for New Years! Secret on the collard greens that my Dad taught me; put a whole (shell and all) pecan into the broth that you cook the greens in and it will pull out all the bitterness and you get the sweetest collard greens ever. Also, I'm not one to boil any vegetable so I sauté the greens first in bacon grease and then add a small bit of chicken broth and only cook them until they are tender, not falling apart. Almost like cooking them in a Wok. If they are fresh you don't have to cook them very long.

Some southern recipes cook them all day until the texture is like canned spinach, I don't really care for this way of cooking them.
 

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It is an American South thing. Hoppin' John is a spicy black eyed peas dish. The peas are simmered with smoked pork ... usually a ham hock or bacon. Celery, onion, bell pepper - which Dakota probably knows is called Trinity. Herbs and some fairly hot pepper sauce, top with scallions and serve over rice. If you are hard core you serve it with collard greens. Very good and supposed to bring you good luck if eaten on New Years Day.
The blackeyed peas thing has been a tradition in my house for a good long while. And my parents are from the Midwest. So was confused by the "an American South thing." Sure, I'm was born and raised in the south, but my parents, whose tradition it is to eat these beans on New Year's for luck ("although called a pea, it is actually a bean").

So I looked it up. And found:
Eating black-eyed peas on New Year’s Day has been considered good luck for at least 1,500 years. According to a portion of the Talmud written around 500 A.D., it was Jewish custom at the time to eat black-eyed peas in celebration of Rosh Hashanah, the Jewish New Year (which occurs in the fall). It is possible that the tradition arrived in America with Sephardic Jews, who first arrived in Georgia in the 1730s.
- A New Year's Food Tradition: Black-Eyed Peas and Greens (thespruceeats.com)

Well, that didn't help. My parents (nor any of their ancestors) are not from the USA South. Nor are any of my ancestors (at least on my father's side, he's the one who had the DNA test), seem to have any connection to Jewish custom or tradition.
 

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The Talmud! Wow!

I think black-eyed peas are eaten around the country, and I'm sure people have passed around the good luck/New Years thing. I've had folks who are multi-generational Northwest natives mention it to me. These are folks who wouldn't know soul food if it bit 'em on the behind, but they know you're "supposed" to eat black-eyes on New Years.

Hoppin' John on rice with collard greens, however, no matter where it might be prepared, seems to me to be a definitively Southern dish, which is what I meant by "it's an American South thing." Sorry for the confusion, Lexxi.
 

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I'll eat as many of these as you want. But NO CABBAGE.
I'll take the cabbage - suffer for it, but I love it so. Not so much the beans though.

It is an American South thing. Hoppin' John is a spicy black eyed peas dish. The peas are simmered with smoked pork ... usually a ham hock or bacon. Celery, onion, bell pepper - which Dakota probably knows is called Trinity. Herbs and some fairly hot pepper sauce, top with scallions and serve over rice. If you are hard core you serve it with collard greens. Very good and supposed to bring you good luck if eaten on New Years Day.
Dakota isn't the only one - little realized, but Pensacola [and Mobile] have more culture in common with NOLA and the rest of the norther gulf coast, than with the rest of Florida. Though, arround here, in stores, its just seasoning blend and its great for a quick meal.

You're lucky you don't have lutafisk.
A friend of mine from Sweden doesn't touch that stuff - he prefers sushi. And near as I can tell, Minnesota is the last strong hold of that being a thing.

The blackeyed peas thing has been a tradition in my house for a good long while. And my parents are from the Midwest. So was confused by the "an American South thing." Sure, I'm was born and raised in the south, but my parents, whose tradition it is to eat these beans on New Year's for luck ("although called a pea, it is actually a bean").

So I looked it up. And found: - A New Year's Food Tradition: Black-Eyed Peas and Greens (thespruceeats.com)

Well, that didn't help. My parents (nor any of their ancestors) are not from the USA South. Nor are any of my ancestors (at least on my father's side, he's the one who had the DNA test), seem to have any connection to Jewish custom or tradition.
Quick dna nerd thing. So, you only get half your dna from each parent, right? Thing is, a sibling could have a completely different mix, depending on where they get it from. Some dna is more recessive and tends to disappear faster - for example, my mom says a cousin was convinced we've some Jewish ancestry, but there isn't any trace of it in my dna - but I've cousins with it, so its possible - or they got it somewhere else.

Also, customs tend to travel fairly well, especially if they aren't expensive.

and my Pennsylvanian Dutch dad followed the black eyed peas tradition too - but he might have picked it when stationed somewhere. I can't ask him now.
 
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The Talmud! Wow!

I think black-eyed peas are eaten around the country, and I'm sure people have passed around the good luck/New Years thing. I've had folks who are multi-generational Northwest natives mention it to me. These are folks who wouldn't know soul food if it bit 'em on the behind, but they know you're "supposed" to eat black-eyes on New Years.

Hoppin' John on rice with collard greens, however, no matter where it might be prepared, seems to me to be a definitively Southern dish, which is what I meant by "it's an American South thing." Sorry for the confusion, Lexxi.
hehehe - I laugh because I asked my mother and she reminded me that we do eat it with greens. "The beans symbolize coins or wealth. Also prosperity of good health. . . . "we also eat them with greens - that symbolizes hoping to have plenty of 'dollars of prosperity in the New Year' double good luck".

Apparently it is tradition on both sides of my family. Not sure where it comes from on father's side, but, apparently, it comes from the German ancestors on my mother's side. Not sure where the German part comes in - the German New Years tradition, apparently, involves sauerkraut and herring (according to an article, my parents never tried to feed me herring (sauerkraut/cabbage yes, herring no).

Quick dna nerd thing. So, you only get half your dna from each parent, right? Thing is, a sibling could have a completely different mix, depending on where they get it from. Some dna is more recessive and tends to disappear faster - for example, my mom says a cousin was convinced we've some Jewish ancestry, but there isn't any trace of it in my dna - but I've cousins with it, so its possible - or they got it somewhere else.

Also, customs tend to travel fairly well, especially if they aren't expensive.

and my Pennsylvanian Dutch dad followed the black eyed peas tradition too - but he might have picked it when stationed somewhere. I can't ask him now.
hmm. I also have French and Dutch ancestors (Pennsylvania Dutch = mainly coming from Germany, but also the Netherlands, France, and Switzerland).

hmmx2. Sauerkraut & pork for New Year's luck - Pennsylvania Dutch.
The True Story of Traditional New Year's Lucky Foods | Serious Eats

I don't remember if it is two separate dishes or all together, but the thing I get feed on New Year's involves pork and collards/cabbage/sauerkraut; black eyed beans and . . . pork? Something. Possible all mixed together in a bowl. Possibly in separate bowls.
 
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My Mother's French side of the family used to make a soup with butternut squash, fresh spinach and lentils. The lentils were done at New Years because they are good luck for prosperity through out the year.
 

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My Hungarian grandmother had this thing where the first thing you're supposed to eat on New Year's Day was some kind of pork, and the one thing you should absolutely not have that day is chicken. The logic being that while alive pigs root forward in the dirt, and chickens scratch backwards. I guess?

She was also insistent that the first person to cross the threshold into your house in a new year should be male, because that was lucky, lol
 

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my parents never tried to feed me herring (sauerkraut/cabbage yes, herring no).
LOVE herring with onions in wine sauce! Just got a nice, big jar this last week. It never lasts very long around here.
 
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hmm. I also have French and Dutch ancestors (Pennsylvania Dutch = mainly coming from Germany, but also the Netherlands, France, and Switzerland).

hmmx2. Sauerkraut & pork for New Year's luck - Pennsylvania Dutch.
The True Story of Traditional New Year's Lucky Foods | Serious Eats

I don't remember if it is two separate dishes or all together, but the thing I get feed on New Year's involves pork and collards/cabbage/sauerkraut; black eyed beans and . . . pork? Something. Possible all mixed together in a bowl. Possibly in separate bowls.
Oddly, the abundance of sauerkraut growing up came from my mom's side. While her maternal grandmother was slavic, she worked as a maid and later cook for a german family. Since she came over at the age of 14, well, she hadn't really learned any Czech or Slav dishes to make [I need to look at a modern map and see which side she came from.

Though, while I was raised thinking my mom was half German[with a family name of Lockwald, it seems a natural conclusion - the Polish was a surprise] and 1/4 Czech and 1/4 Yugoslav [though records show maybe my Poppop was from the same region?] and my dad was like 99% German [like, sure, his family had been here since the 1600s, there was bound to be other things - I just didn't expect so much English and Scottish [though still not much in the grand scheme.

Anyways, my dad liked kraut, but it wasn't his big meal for New Years. He like ham, collards and black eyed peas. Then again, he sort of was stationed in like Texas and such before I was born. Including learning that while grits -look- like cream of wheat, they are definitely -not- cream of wheat.


Also, now I'm going to be convinced we're cousins. I seem to be related to most of the state of Pennsylvania with cousins scattered around the world [even if Ancestry only shows me the american ones on the map].... so weird, growing up with just my immediate family and my mom's mom and grandmother in my life, and very occasionally visits up to Harrisburg. But I've entirely too many cousins [that most of which won't return my messages :p]
 
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I find family food traditions very interesting. Lots of times they came from whatever country the person migrated from but were transmogrified because the area they moved to didn't have all the ingredients. I have all of my Great Grandmother's cook books and hand written recipes which I cherish and also use. Since I retired, I've been thinking about writing a cookbook with recipes from her, my Grandmother and my Mother along with stories about how the recipe came into being and how they may have changed it as well as stories about the little farm that my Great Grandmother had.

The challenge has been trying and photographing all the recipes but eventually I'll get there. 🍷
 

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I find family food traditions very interesting. Lots of times they came from whatever country the person migrated from but were transmogrified because the area they moved to didn't have all the ingredients. I have all of my Great Grandmother's cook books and hand written recipes which I cherish and also use. Since I retired, I've been thinking about writing a cookbook with recipes from her, my Grandmother and my Mother along with stories about how the recipe came into being and how they may have changed it as well as stories about the little farm that my Great Grandmother had.

The challenge has been trying and photographing all the recipes but eventually I'll get there. 🍷
I don't know if there is a bunch of written down recipes from my great grandmother, and lord knows no one wants my grandmother's [she was great at golf, bridge and working when most women didn't, but not at all a good cook - according to my mom, my grandfather called her high flame Mary [he died before I was born]. And I don't think my mom writes down recipes either...

But that would be a lovely book idea, and I'd love to get a copy when you are done!
 
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Here in NL we don't have good luck foods as far as I know.
We do have a treat that is a Sylvester/New Years days tradition: Oliebollen.
Deep fried dough balls most of the time with raisins inside, sometimes with apple or just plain dough, always topped with powdered sugar:



A lot of people make them at home, but you can buy them in bakeries and supermarkets as well starting after Christmas.
Almost every town has one or more temporary oliebollen stands as well.



One of the major newspapers has a national oliebollen contest every year.
This is what can happened when your bakery wins it:

 
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My Mother's French side of the family used to make a soup with butternut squash, fresh spinach and lentils. The lentils were done at New Years because they are good luck for prosperity through out the year.
Actual quote from my French-Canadian mother when I brought a lentil-based dish (it was a type of shepherd's pie) home one time:

"Why would you go and ruin a perfectly good recipe like that?"

My mom and I had very different taste buds.
 

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The only thing I like to boil a tiny bit longer then most recipes tell, are Brussel spouts. Then they loose their bitterness a bit.
 
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We used to have lefse rollups with butter and cinnamon sugar, and also nuts we had to crack open for new years. I think there was also pizza and various fizzy drinks as well, but with five children that was probably a necessary bow to practicality.

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We used to have lefse rollups with butter and cinnimon sugar, and also nuts we had to crack open for new years. I think there was also pizza and various fizzy drinks as well, but with five children that was probably a necessary bow to practicallity.
Ditto on the lefse.