2020 Democratic Primary

[Romana]

Does anyone have the foggiest idea WTF the annoying bot-like wanker with the nebula avatar is on about in any of his/her posts? I can't make a lick of sense out of 'em. It's all like it's almost English but then it veers off course and goes into the weeds like some bad Benny Hill sketch.

I duntq know, I put them on ignore after the last few. Too trollish.

 

[Clara D.]

Does anyone have the foggiest idea WTF the annoying bot-like wanker with the nebula avatar is on about in any of his/her posts? I can't make a lick of sense out of 'em. It's all like it's almost English but then it veers off course and goes into the weeds like some bad Benny Hill sketch.

But with out the redeeming gratuitous boobage.

 

[Romana]

But with out the redeeming gratuitous boobage.

And the humour.

 

[Romana]

Speaking of humor, the smear campaign seems to be entering the realm of "theater of the absurd". Are we sure this isn't a Jacob Wohl operation?


I googled it and yeah, that does seem to be what she's saying

 

[Grandma Bates]

Does anyone have the foggiest idea WTF the annoying bot-like wanker with the nebula avatar is on about in any of his/her posts? I can't make a lick of sense out of 'em. It's all like it's almost English but then it veers off course and goes into the weeds like some bad Benny Hill sketch.

Well, Nebula Dude seems to be upset that someone else who claims to be a Socialist neglected to build a broad coalition of people as a way to initiate a revolution, so the logical conclusion is that an unrelated political party that the supposed Socialist is not a part of was wrong to allow other people who are actually members of that party to receive votes from people who are part of the party. Since the Socialist neglected to read Eugene Debs and does not understand the need to reach out to all the people as well as to recognize non-economic disparities of the system, they apparently feel the whole world is unfairly stacked against them. Capt. Nebulous has reached the obvious conclusion that only he and the Socialist's followers truly understand that the system is stacked against them, and other groups of people that have been dealing with shocking inequities for generations have no idea how unfair it is that Capt. Nebula cannot dictate that others should simply be ignored because they are naive and ignorant rubes who do not know what is best for them.

Also, he is saying this under the context on a board where about half of us supported the Socialist four years ago but have since changed our minds. Therefore we are all conservative stooges who actively embrace and support an unfair system. This conclusion follows naturally since the vast majority of us now see our options as being between a shit sandwich and half a shit sandwich. It makes obvious sense to go whole hog for the full shit sandwich because there is no difference and might as well shovel down as much as possible which is easy to say if one is privileged enough to not be exposed to the full ramifications of that choice.

Also, I still find it bizarre that people who call themselves "Socialist" repeatedly refuse to be part of a broader coalition of people. They need to start reading other sources rather than blindly follow some loner with a messiah complex.

 

[Romana]

I think I'd describe 45 as a shit sandwich full of cyanide, with a garnish of arsenic.

 

[Aribeth Zelin]

I think I'd describe 45 as a shit sandwich full of cyanide, with a garnish of arsenic.

But ten times as deadly and nasty

 

[Katheryne Helendale]

I think I'd describe 45 as a shit sandwich full of cyanide, with a garnish of arsenic.

"You're a three-decker sauerkraut
And toadstool sandwich
With arsenic sauce"
- From Your're a Mean One, Mr. Grinch

 

[Aeon Jiminy]

Well, Nebula Dude seems to be upset that someone else who claims to be a Socialist neglected to build a broad coalition of people as a way to initiate a revolution, so the logical conclusion is that an unrelated political party that the supposed Socialist is not a part of was wrong to allow other people who are actually members of that party to receive votes from people who are part of the party. Since the Socialist neglected to read Eugene Debs and does not understand the need to reach out to all the people as well as to recognize non-economic disparities of the system, they apparently feel the whole world is unfairly stacked against them. Capt. Nebulous has reached the obvious conclusion that only he and the Socialist's followers truly understand that the system is stacked against them, and other groups of people that have been dealing with shocking inequities for generations have no idea how unfair it is that Capt. Nebula cannot dictate that others should simply be ignored because they are naive and ignorant rubes who do not know what is best for them.

Also, he is saying this under the context on a board where about half of us supported the Socialist four years ago but have since changed our minds. Therefore we are all conservative stooges who actively embrace and support an unfair system. This conclusion follows naturally since the vast majority of us now see our options as being between a shit sandwich and half a shit sandwich. It makes obvious sense to go whole hog for the full shit sandwich because there is no difference and might as well shovel down as much as possible which is easy to say if one is privileged enough to not be exposed to the full ramifications of that choice.

Also, I still find it bizarre that people who call themselves "Socialist" repeatedly refuse to be part of a broader coalition of people. They need to start reading other sources rather than blindly follow some loner with a messiah complex.

You're getting your broader coalition and I'm sure it will be what's best for you.
“You don’t want something like this out on the street before it needs to be,” one GOP operative said. “It just makes it much harder to do.”

Biden Campaign Is Secretly Building a Republican Group

 

[Free]

Biden Campaign Is Secretly Building a Republican Group

The contours of a developing “Republicans for Biden” movement are indeed fluid, with longtime operatives and former party loyalists mixed on what a final product would look like and when it might come into fruition.

Oh my, NeverTrumpsters are trying to team up with Demon-crats!

 

[danielravennest]

So I got my Georgia primary absentee ballot in the mail today. Georgia is still having in-person voting for the June 9th primary. But due to the virus anyone who wants a mail-in ballot can get one, and they sent a request form for such to all registered voters. The nice thing is I can go through the ballot at my leisure and research the candidates and issues.

 

[Eunoli]

So I got my Georgia primary absentee ballot in the mail today. Georgia is still having in-person voting for the June 9th primary. But due to the virus anyone who wants a mail-in ballot can get one, and they sent a request form for such to all registered voters. The nice thing is I can go through the ballot at my leisure and research the candidates and issues.

That's how Washington does it except you don't have to ask. We all get ballots mailed. You can still bring it in yourself to any of a bunch of roadside drop-offs if you want or just go to a polling place and do it old school (though maybe not the last one this year). Its kind of awesome being able to research the guys and issues on the ballot you didn't know about with it right next to you.

 

[Cristalle]

Oh my, NeverTrumpsters are trying to team up with Demon-crats!

More like, the Biden campaign is trying to transform the Democratic Party into the party of Mitt Romney.

Well, fuck, if that's the case we should have just voted for Romney in 2012 and got the real thing.

They’re Still Trying To Destroy Social Security

Natasha Sarin, Larry Summers' protegé, floated this POS idea and of course it's gaining traction in the administration, instead of doing the right thing and giving UBI. And of course, it will do precisely jack and shit for poor people.

 

[Free]

How big should Joe Biden be

A thousand-mile tall hologram is what the DNC needs

www.theverge.com

 

[Grandma Bates]

You're getting your broader coalition and I'm sure it will be what's best for you.
“You don’t want something like this out on the street before it needs to be,” one GOP operative said. “It just makes it much harder to do.”

Biden Campaign Is Secretly Building a Republican Group

Since I explicitly said that this is not the outcome I wanted it would seem it is also not the coalition I prefer. Unlike you, though, I was willing to read and took a look at the article. The article only says that there is a group of Republicans who are opposed to Pres. Trump and will work to support Biden. That by itself means nothing, and there is not discussion of specific policies. Merely working with or agreeing with a Republican is not grounds to act like a petulant child, crying and soiling ones self because you did not get your way.

I am all too aware that VP Biden is much further to the right than I prefer. I also recognize that his nomination will be a big setback for a movement that Sen. Sanders helped push forward. The irony is that Sen. Sanders shares a good deal of the blame for the setback. People who see only conspiracies and a system working against Sen. Sanders while also offering nothing but spite should not be surprised they were not welcomed with open arms. If you only show up to someone else's party once every four years with the same old crowd and an unwillingness to listen to anybody else then do not be surprised if you are shown the door.

In the meantime there is a new generation of progressive politicians. They recognize the value of coalitions and long term work that results in continued small gains over time. It was Sen. Sanders who refused to listen to them and support them, and he ended up hurting his movement. Y'all can whine and complain that the Democratic party is shifting to a staid, corporate establishment organization, and it has been that way since the Clinton's took over the DLC and created the "New Democrats." This is not some new revelation nor shocking insight that only you have the wisdom to understand. Everybody on this board knows this, and most of us do not like it.

Throwing a temper tantrum and pointing out that it is unfair and undemocratic does not make you seem like some enlightened, wizened sage aware of dark secretes that nobody wishes to discuss in the open. It makes you look like a spoiled toddler who lacks self awareness. Y'all are exhausting. Simply repeating the same old nonsense without listening or engaging what is being said is only serving to push people away, and like your loner messiah it has the opposite impact that you are trying to achieve.

 

[Clara D.]

ZOMG U GUIS BIDEN AM SEKRIT REPUBLICAN

JUST GIV UP AN VOET 4 TRUMP LIEK ME!

I hate Trump, and scoff at your pathetic attempts to drag Biden through the mud. There's nothing you can pull out of your ass that'll make him less worthy than Trump -- in my history as a voter the bar has never been this low, and I've been through anti-worker Reagan and the inbred Bush's.

While Biden's centrisim makes me cringe a little it's actually a good thing when it comes to getting Trump the fuck out. If he can pull votes from the R side, good.

I'm not one of you turncoat Bernster fauxgressives that are going to vote for Trump because of some poorly rationalized butthurt. I don't think a childish snit to prove a point in the stupidest way possible is more important than getting rid of TheOrangeThing that's intentionally tearing our country to shreds through an extra-speshul combination of incompetence and malice (those being the only things TOT is capable of).

 

[Free]

 

[Romana]

Since I explicitly said that this is not the outcome I wanted it would seem it is also not the coalition I prefer. Unlike you, though, I was willing to read and took a look at the article. The article only says that there is a group of Republicans who are opposed to Pres. Trump and will work to support Biden. That by itself means nothing, and there is not discussion of specific policies. Merely working with or agreeing with a Republican is not grounds to act like a petulant child, crying and soiling ones self because you did not get your way.

I am all too aware that VP Biden is much further to the right than I prefer. I also recognize that his nomination will be a big setback for a movement that Sen. Sanders helped push forward. The irony is that Sen. Sanders shares a good deal of the blame for the setback. People who see only conspiracies and a system working against Sen. Sanders while also offering nothing but spite should not be surprised they were not welcomed with open arms. If you only show up to someone else's party once every four years with the same old crowd and an unwillingness to listen to anybody else then do not be surprised if you are shown the door.

In the meantime there is a new generation of progressive politicians. They recognize the value of coalitions and long term work that results in continued small gains over time. It was Sen. Sanders who refused to listen to them and support them, and he ended up hurting his movement. Y'all can whine and complain that the Democratic party is shifting to a staid, corporate establishment organization, and it has been that way since the Clinton's took over the DLC and created the "New Democrats." This is not some new revelation nor shocking insight that only you have the wisdom to understand. Everybody on this board knows this, and most of us do not like it.

Throwing a temper tantrum and pointing out that it is unfair and undemocratic does not make you seem like some enlightened, wizened sage aware of dark secretes that nobody wishes to discuss in the open. It makes you look like a spoiled toddler who lacks self awareness. Y'all are exhausting. Simply repeating the same old nonsense without listening or engaging what is being said is only serving to push people away, and like your loner messiah it has the opposite impact that you are trying to achieve.

What did I miss? Who's throwing a temper tantrum?

 

[Innula Zenovka]

What did I miss? Who's throwing a temper tantrum?

I think you may have blocked an account called Aeon Jiminy.

 

[Romana]

I think you may have blocked an account called Aeon Jiminy.

LOL, I didn't realize that ignore banished quotes, too! Boy, that's thorough.
Yeah, he's the tantrum type alright.