The Russia-Ukraine War has begun

[Soen Eber]

False. This is russian propaganda. Ukraine turns away international volunteer fighters from the TDF who lack battle experience. Also, while Ukraine does have mandatory mobilizations, these drafts do not conscript any man under the age of 27 into the AFU by force. Men under the age of 27 and above the age of 18, may volunteer to fight by choice, though they are not legally permitted to leave the country if they are physically fit to fight. Women have about the freedoms you would expect. They may leave, remain, or choose to fight. Ukrainian moral remains high. These people know what they are fighting for. They have a strong will to fight and win.

russia, on the other hand, recruits heavily from the Far-East, using the war in Ukrainian to purge many of their own regions of non-slavic fighting aged men. They also recruit heavy from prisons and from countries who can't afford to fee themselves, like north korea. Did you factory get bombed? Join the russian MOD. Get caught committing a crime. Join the MOD (all charges will be dropped).

The most googled toggle from russia during the first week of them invading Ukraine was as follows: How to break your own arm at home.

Because, nobody with a brain in russia, acutally wants to go die for their motherland in Ukraine. However, most of the smart people appear to have left russia in an attempt to avoid being concripted. Then, of course, thousands of young men also fled. In Ukraine, it has been most women and childern who fleed, as it should be. Do take note of that last comparision. It says a lot.

Additionally, the March of the Infinitly Battalion has been suspended all over russia, as the kremlin does not want it's people to see the true cost of the war, though this is becomming harder and harder for them to do as Ukrainian drones wreck havoc on moscow.

In terms of population, 1 in 4 Ukrainians is elderly. And 1 in 3 russian men has a serious problem with vodka. Strangely, it remains the Ukrainians who are most willing to fight. I believe the average age of their soilders is rather high also, as it are the Ukrainians who we born under soviet occupation before the Berlin wall fell who appear to be the most motivated to fight back and drive out the current rash of evil that has invaded their land.

I honestly believe that you don't have the slightest idea of what you are talking about and suggest not talking out your ass in the future, as in reguard to the statement you have made above, you couldn't be more wrong, probably not even if you tried.


Ah, the virtues of neautrality. You might as well preach this upon deaf ears.



Should it have limits, then it never existed in the first place. There are many who do support Ukraine. But, in my opinion, you should not be permitted to count yourself among them.



Propoganda. Ukraine has made significant battlefeild progess, though they often trade empty feilds for better fighting positions to better inflict casuties on russia. The held Bakmut for 9 months. Azov held their position while completely surrounded in Maripoul for 80 days. The russians lost hundreds upon hundreds of vechiles in their attempts to take Vuledar. "Elite" russian paratroopers in the battle for Kyiv were twarted by average and disorganized Ukrainian forces. russia lacks the manpower to lauch an offensive at Kharkiv. Ukraine currently controls the Black Sea, hit the Kerch bridge when it wants to, and constantly restricts russia's ability to transport anything. russia oild refineries burn daily. The russian economy is slowly eating itself from the inside out. russia can't even secure it's own boarders, as Ukraine counter-invades russian soil whenever they wish.

The idea that Ukraine is not making satifactory battlefiled progress and should negitate to end the war is preposterous propoganda and should be laughed out of the room.

Ukraine has made the russians pay in buckets upon buckets of blood for ever meter of land they have taken. And the russians have lost so many lives, that it is reported that they sometimes burn their dead. One women described the smell as being absolutely awful.



While you appear to be rooting for russia, I believe this war will end with the collapse of russia.


It's spelled Zelenskyy. And yes, properly the Latin spelling of his name includes to Ys.

Here's how I know you don't have any idea what your talking about:

Zelenskyy has considered the possibility of trading territory for peace, the the proposition is wildly unpopular with the average Ukrainian, and Zelenskyy has stated that he would not commit to even discussing such an action without a referendum from the Ukrainian people.

Please go educated yourself on what is really happening in this war before talking out of your ass about it in the future. Ukrainians are dying while you can't even be bothered to inform yourself on the topic before playing arm-chair general and unknowning spouting russian propoganda. You are practically foaming at the mouth with pro-kremlin propoganda and disinformation.

(My agreement above stops with the digs at Bart, who has shown a keen understanding on current events)

 

[Bartholomew Gallacher]

Many of you may still know Vitali Klitschko as former world champion heavyweight boxer. In Germany the Klitschko brothers are well known, because they lived for a long time in Hamburg and studied there.

Anyway, Vitali Klitschko has been the mayor of Kyiv for years now and had an interview with "The Times" this Friday. In this interview Klitschko is firing a barrage aimed at Zelensky, while Klitschko is a controversial figure on his own. In short it looks like Zelensky is using martial law powers to gain control over Kyiv's city administration.

Zelensky has forced Klitschko, who is said to harbour presidential ambitions despite an aborted run in 2014, into a political clinch from which his escape looks improbable. The president has used martial law to appoint a rival military administration in the capital to mirror the mayor’s responsibilities.

Meanwhile, a string of arrests by the national anti-corruption bureau under an operation called Clean City has exposed widespread corruption under Klitschko’s watch. Seven of his subordinates have been arrested, with another three under investigation.

Klitschko, 53, has lashed out at Zelensky’s administration, complaining that the work of his city council had been paralysed by “raids, interrogations and threats of fabricated criminal cases” that prevented his deputies from meeting a legal quorum for decision making. “This is a purge of democratic principles and institutions under the guise of war,” he told The Times in Kyiv. “I said once that it smells of authoritarianism in our country. Now it stinks.”

The dispute is as much personal as it is political. When Klitschko criticised Zelensky’s approach to peace negotiations in February, the former comic belittled the former boxer. “Klitschko is a great athlete, but I didn’t know he was a great speaker,” the president said. Klitschko’s portrayal of the feud as an act of presidential overreach plays to growing concerns that Zelensky’s consolidation of wartime powers has come at the expense of democracy. He accused Zelensky of using military administrations across the country to wrest power from elected mayors.

“Many of the mayors are intimidated, but my celebrity status is a protection. You can fire the mayor of Chernihiv, but it is very difficult to fire the mayor of the capital who the whole world knows,” Klitschko said. “That is why everything is being done to discredit and ruin my reputation.”

Yet independent experts suggest the conflict goes deeper, reflecting real concern about abuse of city funds in wartime. “There should be no doubt that these arrests are not just politics, but a response to manifestations of corruption in the Kyiv city administration,” said Volodymr Fesenko, a political scientist who heads the Penta think tank.

Some in Zelensky’s administration had their own vested interests in the capital, he added. “There is a lot of money in Kyiv. Some businesses that are oriented towards President Zelensky would like to have access to the financial flows in Kyiv.” That did not mean the mayors had no questions to answer, Fesenko added. “During the war money should go primarily to defence, to protect the country, yet there is all this construction,” said Fesenko. “In some other cities, even stadiums are being built. In the Donbas there are large landscaping projects. The frontline is near by, and the money is not going to defensive structures, but to greenery.”

Residents of Kyiv say they are perplexed that despite the constant threat of Russian airstrikes, densely populated high-rise apartment blocks are being thrown up instead of shelters, schools, hospitals or metro stations. Often these buildings are constructed by developers using a legal loophole known as a “toilet scheme”, under which they erect a small temporary building, such as a pay-per-use toilet, on unused public land. This gives them something akin to squatters’ rights, allowing them to develop the land, as long as the right wheels are greased.

Many of the ten Kyiv officials under investigation are charged with corruption related to the allocation of these property permits. Klitschko’s former deputy mayor, Petro Olenych, has been charged with taking bribes to help conscripts flee the country, while Denys Komarnytskyi, a former councillor under investigation for embezzlement, has fled to Austria.

Klitschko said he had sacked eight of the officials investigated as part of the Clean City operation. “I have 4,500 employees in this building alone and about 300,000 employees working for the city,” he said. “Corruption cases sometimes happen, but we react harshly and quickly. We co-operate with law enforcement, provide all the necessary information and hope for an impartial investigation of all cases.”

Nonetheless, critics accuse Klitschko of stifling the development of Kyiv’s infrastructure over his 11-year tenure. Traffic chokes the city, while bridges and key roads are clogged with cars throughout the working day. A fourth metro line that could ease congestion, promised by Klitschko in 2017, has failed to materialise after eight years, with a series of stations actually shutting down last year owing to poor maintenance. Instead, a fleet of antiquated cash-only “marshrutka” — small private buses — belch diesel fumes across the city. When an air-raid warning sounds, they become the only form of functioning public transport.

Yevheniia Kuleba, an opposition councillor from Zelensky’s Servant of the People party, blames the mayor for the city’s problems. “He’s connected with this marshrutka mafia, these small yellow buses,” she said. “They’re in a very bad condition, but they’re taking cash from people. Of course, when you take cash, you don’t know whether they pay taxes or how much.”

Klitschko hit back at the claims. “This is part of the lies and manipulation being spread by the president’s office and the Servant of the People party,” he said.
The mayor’s main rival in Kyiv is Tymur Tkachenko, who was appointed head of the city’s military administration by Zelensky five months ago. Tkachenko accused Klitschko of unacceptable “weakness” during wartime.

“Mr Klitschko could not close the brothel in the basement of the same building where he lives,” Tkachenko told The Times, referring to Tootsies, a notorious strip club raided and shut down by the state security service last month as part of an investigation into sex trafficking. The club was next to a hotel and apartment complex owned by Klitschko and his brother Wladimir, 49. The mayor said the claim was a “lie” designed to “pour mud”. He said he had no relationship with the “table dancing club” and that he did not interfere with the economic activities of businesses.

“When corruption flourishes in the city, from construction sites to cemeteries, it is impossible without the city government,” Tkachenko added. “This mayor has been in office for over ten years, without transparency in the city, with a bunch of schemes, without necessary decisions. In fact, because of the image of an old sports star. Kyiv deserves better.”

The gloves are off between Zelensky and mayor Klitschko

Vitali Klitschko was a heavyweight boxer before becoming mayor of Kyiv, but now faces a fight for control after the Ukrainian president curbed his powers

www.thetimes.com

 

[Bartholomew Gallacher]

Trump's administration is considering lifting all restrictions on war in Ukraine, to put more pressure on Russia.

What Could End the War in Ukraine?

An analyst of the conflict argues that there is still a path to peace.

www.newyorker.com

 

[GoblinCampFollower]

Trump's administration is considering lifting all restrictions on war in Ukraine, to put more pressure on Russia.

What Could End the War in Ukraine?

An analyst of the conflict argues that there is still a path to peace.

www.newyorker.com

so maybe Trump will do the right thing after it's kind of too late? If we gave them all they needed early on, this might be over by now.

 

[Anya Ristow]

At least 40 Russian aircraft destroyed on three airfields, and a submarine base hit, by drones launched from trucks with false compartments, in an operation that took a year and a half to plan.

 

[Bartholomew Gallacher]

Russian bridges have been collapsing. Since Ukraine is not so far away, this could be Ukrainian sabotage.

 

[Isabeau]

Ukraine stages audacious attack on airfields deep in Russian territory

After the attack, its Ukraine that will present a peace proposal.

Ukraine’s negotiators will present a draft peace proposal to their Russian counterparts on Monday. It lays out what Kyiv sees as a viable path to the end of the war. The proposal, seen by the Financial Times on Sunday, calls for a full and unconditional ceasefire in the sky, on land and at sea — to be monitored by the US — followed by the release of all prisoners, the return of Ukrainian children forcibly taken to Russia and an agreement for Zelenskyy to meet Putin.

 

[Free]

Ukraine stages audacious attack on airfields deep in Russian territory

After the attack, its Ukraine that will present a peace proposal.

Without subscription wall: Ukraine stages audacious attack on airfields deep in Russian territory

 

[Free]

Some details of the Ukrainian drone strikes against the strategic Russian bombers.

Maria Avdeeva (@mariainkharkiv.bsky.social)

This will be in textbooks. Ukraine secretly delivered FPV drones and wooden mobile cabins into Russia. The drones were hidden under the roofs of the cabins, which were later mounted on trucks. 1/

bsky.app

Maria Avdeeva (@mariainkharkiv.bsky.social)

At the signal, the roofs opened remotely. Dozens of drones launched directly from the trucks, striking strategic bomber aircraft. And — Russia can’t produce these bombers anymore. The loss is massive. Nothing like this has ever been done before.

bsky.app

 

[Erich Templar]

Maria Avdeeva (@mariainkharkiv.bsky.social)

At the signal, the roofs opened remotely. Dozens of drones launched directly from the trucks, striking strategic bomber aircraft. And — Russia can’t produce these bombers anymore. The loss is massive. Nothing like this has ever been done before.

bsky.app

That is some James Bond level shenanigans.

 

[Veritable Quandry]

This could end up being a huge distraction for Russia. They now have to worry about threats from as far away from the front as Siberia. They are going to have to redeploy intelligence officers to cover a lot more ground. This is probably not the only operation inside Russia at the moment.

 

[Bartholomew Gallacher]

Also Trump's administration was not informed upfront about it.

So this was Zelensky's way of telling Trump "oops, I still got some cards you don't know about" and more importantly to strengthen Ukraine's position in upcoming peace talks. Probably Russia will try to retaliate sooner or later.

 

[Khamon]

Ukraine needs to not give Russia time to retaliate. Destroying dozens of bombers, deep in Russian territory, is an impressive feat but poking the bear with a one off will not end the conflict. Zelensky has hopefully read the Art of War and has initiated a series of planned operations designed to occur regularly until Russia either honors, not signs but honors, a peace agreement, or is wholly obliterated.

 

[Katheryne Helendale]

Also Trump's administration was not informed upfront about it.

Yeah, Zelenskyy didn't want to take the chance of his plans getting leaked on Signal, or of Trump blabbing them to anyone who waves money in his face.

 

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

Ukraine needs to not give Russia time to retaliate. Destroying dozens of bombers, deep in Russian territory, is an impressive feat but poking the bear with a one off will not end the conflict. Zelensky has hopefully read the Art of War and has initiated a series of planned operations designed to occur regularly until Russia either honors, not signs but honors, a peace agreement, or is wholly obliterated.

Got me thinking about American tanks in Canada, a place where people look identical to and mimic the accent of Americans, along with understanding the culture inside and out.

Plus all the shoulder to shoulder military experience.

 

[Noodles]

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Critics may question whether Ukraine or Russia could be persuaded to accept a settlement (assuming other contentious issues are resolved) with an open-ended question on their core territorial claims. The two countries, especially Russia, are unlikely to accept such terms willingly, necessitating increased pressure from the U.S. and the West.

There are two major issues here.

One, Ukraine did not provoke Russia. Russia has zero claim to anything Ukraine, including Crimea.

Two, this whole idea precludes that both sides are honest and faithful to whatever come up. And Russia is 100% neither.

 

[Bartholomew Gallacher]

The newest round of Ukraine-Russian talks in Istanbul anded with an agreement to exchange prisoners of war, but no ceasefire was reached. Ukraine's prime minister Denys Shmyhal said as long as Russia rejects a ceasefire Ukraine could continue to develop new ways to hamper Russia's capacity to carry out drone or missile attacks.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/02/second-round-of-ukraine-russia-talks-end-with-pow-deal-but-no-ceasefire

 

[detrius]

Ukraine needs to not give Russia time to retaliate. Destroying dozens of bombers, deep in Russian territory, is an impressive feat but poking the bear with a one off will not end the conflict. Zelensky has hopefully read the Art of War and has initiated a series of planned operations designed to occur regularly until Russia either honors, not signs but honors, a peace agreement, or is wholly obliterated.

Good call.

Ukraine strikes Kerch bridge in Crimea with underwater explosives

Kyiv has hit the Kerch bridge in Crimea, illegally built by Russia after the unilateral annexation of the Ukrainian peninsula. Ukraine’s Security Service released the video of the attack, showing the explosion underwater.

www.euronews.com

 

[WeFlossDaily]

1. A return of Ukraine to is pre-2014 borders, before Russia's invasion of Crimea and its capture of four eastern regions, is "an unrealistic objective".

russia doesn't control the four oblasts in their entirety that they attempted to illegally annex. russia attempting to take full control of these oblasts by force is even more unrealalistic, as their army is poorly equip, unmotivated, and in shambles. Ukraine is very unlikely to trade their land for a false peace. It's a non-starter. All Ukrainian land must be liberated and russia must be destoryed.

2. "Chasing this illusionary goal will only prolong the war and cause more suffering."

Relinquishing land rewards aggression and ensures that there will be another war that causes even more suffering. Nobody wants that. And nobody is about to settled for false peace, just so the russians can rebuild and attack igen in the future, because they would do that.

3. US troops won't be deplayed to Ukraine as any part of security guarantees.

Ukraine has asked only for weapons and permission to use those weapons as their military leadership sees fit. American and the EU and much of the world has done a lot to help Ukraine, but they could and can be doing more. Allowing Ukraine to fall means WWIII enters the hot phase. Destorying russia by providing Ukraine with aid prevents WIII from entering the hot phase.

5. A peace deal allowing for eventual NATO membership is not feasible.

Ukraine needs to become a nuclear state instead of joining NATO.

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Then there is all the moaning and bitching about how I don't like your viewpoint.

Your viewepoint is anti-Ukrainian and promotes kremlin talking points and russian goals. You do not appear to understand why Ukrainians are willing to fight this war or why it matters.

 

[WeFlossDaily]

(My agreement above stops with the digs at Bart, who has shown a keen understanding on current events)

He presents a perspective that advocates for the EU and America to try to force Ukraine to give up their land for a fake russian peace deal. It's all about the importance of doing nothing while others suffer and promoting the virtues of neutrality. This is not a viewpoint I respect, nor will I pretend to respect it because people choose to become offended about it.