When the Epstein Files are released...

What will you do when the Epstein Files are finally released?

  • I'm gonna party like it's 3998 (1999 x 2)

  • Nothing (because it''ll NEVER happen)

  • Prepare for the mega-rioting to come

  • Take that long overdue stress nap

  • "I will diminish, and go into the West and remain Galadriel."

  • Consume way too much pie and whiskey


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Innula Zenovka

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Random question: What if the UN determines there's evidence Donald Trump committed a crime against humanity. What happens then?
Nothing. The UN isn't a court. They could forward the evidence to the International Criminal Court, but since the US doesn't recognise the ICC nothing would happen. Theoretically the ICC could issue an international arrest warrant, as they have done with Putin and Netanyahu, which would put Trump at risk of arrest if he travelled outside the US, though I doubt anyone would have the nerve to arrest the incumbent president of the US when he disembarked from Air Force One.

UN special rapporteurs (the UN legal experts referred to) don't have any judicial or investigatory authority. All they can do is give their views on the basis of the information provided to them, often by NGOs or in press reports, which will rarely have been tested in court. Often, it has to be said, their opinions are more political than legal.

Certainly some recent comments by UN special rapporteurs about various events have seemed to be based on fundamental misunderstandings of the powers and jurisdiction of the International Criminal Court.
 

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This, by Nick Cohen, provides a summary of the allegations about Mountbatten-Windsor's activities as trade envoy contained in Andrew Lownie’s book Entitled: The Rise and Fall of the House of York, published before the Epstein files were released:
I would imagine that the damage to the current royal house is not so much that Andrew was sleazy and corrupt, but that it was known he was sleazy and corrupt and there were no repercussions for so very long. If even such a beloved monarch as Elizabeth II allowed this corruption to flourish, there are no reliable guard rails.

By all appearances, Prince William seems a man of strong integrity who would be less tolerant of abuses when in a position of authority, but you can't rely on voluntary personal ethics as the underlying mechanism of regulation. It's subject to the whims of each generation.

I'm curious to see now William navigates this drama and scandal.
 

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Please come take him away.

Please.
We can only hope his diet will be his end - soon. I mean he's clearly showing signs of quick deterioration, voice and other stuff, he's morbidly obese and not listening to his doctors. So shouldn't take too long now.
 
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We can only hope his diet will be his end - soon. I mean he's clearly showing signs of quick deterioration, voice and other stuff, he's morbidly obese and not listening to his doctors. So shouldn't take too long now.
That is what people were saying too during his first term if I recall correctly.
Wishful thinking. I wish for it too, but my real hope is that the midterm elections will swing the majorities in the Capitol in the right direction, so Trump can be stopped better.
 

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I thought the pressure of the job would have him pull a Harding. But he just ignores the job.
 
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That is what people were saying too during his first term if I recall correctly.
Wishful thinking. I wish for it too, but my real hope is that the midterm elections will swing the majorities in the Capitol in the right direction, so Trump can be stopped better.
Yes, but during his 1st term his health was still quite good. Now it is different: his incoherent blabber attacks are becoming more, longer and stranger, his voice is strained, you can see the marks of his age on his hands, and overall if he would be Joe Biden the GOP would run a massive campaign attacking him for his decline.
 
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We can only hope his diet will be his end - soon. I mean he's clearly showing signs of quick deterioration, voice and other stuff, he's morbidly obese and not listening to his doctors. So shouldn't take too long now.
 
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