UnitedHealthcare CEO Assassinated In NYC

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I can't ignore that a human being was murdered.

I don't doubt that to everyone he knew, he was a "thoroughly decent man." I may have liked him, if I knew him.

It's also very likely he never killed anyone personally. Never shot another person in anger, or despair. But this "thoroughly decent man" chose to run a publicly-traded company that makes decisions on who lives and who dies through a process structured almost wholly on a cost-benefit analysis of medical procedures against actuarial tables and the like. And he was well paid for it.

So I can argue that people died due to him. Maybe not directly but certainly due to decisions he made or signed off on. I can't ignore that, either.
Mankind was his business. The common welfare was his business; charity, mercy, forbearance, and benevolence were, all, his business.
 
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I wonder how Nintendo feels about this. Mostly because they are fairly notorious about not liking their IP used anywhere.
 

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Yeah, I imagine there are a lot of people with power who are desperate to make an example put of this shooter to show that "This won't work" etc.

It also seems pretty clear that the shooter knew what they were doing, compared to a lot of ahootings, to keep from getting caught rapidly. Hell they may have already fucked off to somewhere across out of the country already.
ftfm
 

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Jesus fuck how do people watch this.

"There is a culture in America of ignoring laws and cultural norms."

Fucker, we elected a fucking criminal conman to the white house.

AGAIN.

LAWS NONLINGER FUCKING MEAN SHIT JACKASS.

I don't know who anybof these people are but long haired black lady seems like the only sane person here. Maybe Geraldo.

Those other two dude and the host(?) lady seem like they want to bury it all.
Geraldo hasn't been sane since the day he got punched in the nose on national tv.
 

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This is the core of it. I've worked in big corporate environments far too long to take it on face value that you rise to the top by being the smartest and most hard working in a totally honest way... I don't know that he directly contributed to United Having a much higher denial rate than the rest of the industry but it's very likely he did. But it was great for profit, so we should aspire to be just like that, right?
It was under his "leadership" that UHC's denial rate got to be double other carriers.
 

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I wonder how Nintendo feels about this. Mostly because they are fairly notorious about not liking their IP used anywhere.
"Luigi" is just an Italian name. If Nintendo claims it as their intellectual property, then they have nobody to blame but themselves.
 

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Leak reveals UnitedHealth strategy to cut critical treatment for kids - Raw Story
United administers Medicaid plans or benefits in about two dozen states and for more than 6 million people, including nearly 10,000 children with autism spectrum disorder. Optum expects to spend about $290 million for ABA therapy within its Medicaid plans this year, and it anticipates the need increasing, documents show. The number of its Medicaid patients accessing the specialized therapy has increased by about 20% over the past year, with expenses rising about $75 million year-on-year.

So Optum — whose parent company, UnitedHealth Group, earned $22 billion in net profits last year — is “heavily investing” in its plan to save millions by limiting access to such care.

In addition to culling providers from its network, the company is scrutinizing the medical necessity of the therapy for individual patients with “rigorous” clinical reviews, which can lead to denials of covered treatment. Optum has developed an “approach to authorizing less units than requested,” the records state.
 

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“While 68% of voters overall reject the killer’s actions, younger voters and Democrats are more split — 41% of voters aged 18-29 find the killer’s actions acceptable (24% somewhat acceptable and 17% completely acceptable), while 40% find them unacceptable; 22% of Democrats find them acceptable, while 59% find them unacceptable, this compares to 12% of Republicans and 16% of independents who find the actions acceptable, underscoring shifting societal attitudes among the youngest electorate and within party lines,” Kimball said.
 
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"Luigi" is just an Italian name. If Nintendo claims it as their intellectual property, then they have nobody to blame but themselves.
Meanwhile in PA Wawas are selling Luigi plushies. I can't decide if that's messed up or brilliant.
 

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“While 68% of voters overall reject the killer’s actions, younger voters and Democrats are more split — 41% of voters aged 18-29 find the killer’s actions acceptable (24% somewhat acceptable and 17% completely acceptable), while 40% find them unacceptable; 22% of Democrats find them acceptable, while 59% find them unacceptable, this compares to 12% of Republicans and 16% of independents who find the actions acceptable, underscoring shifting societal attitudes among the youngest electorate and within party lines,” Kimball said.
There are so many things that happen that I consider "unacceptable", and yet, somehow, they still happen. Over and over again.

It's not that I consider the killing of this CEO to be acceptable, so much as this: of all the unacceptable events of the past few years, his death just doesn't meet my "give a damn" threshold.