UnitedHealthcare CEO Assassinated In NYC

[Cristiano]

Not going to lie, I have mixed feelings here. Moreover, I feel like we are at some kind of tipping point and the world is about to explode.

UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in New York in targeted attack

The motive is still unknown - but perhaps this was a factor:

 

[Noodles]

I agree a bit on the tipping point. And I feel like its going to get worse as more and more the whole, worldwide conservative push fails to actually make anyone's live better, as they keep lying about. Especially since, and I hate to stereotype, conservatives, tend to lean more into "Solve problems with violence" solutions.

Granted we know nothing about this assassing (probably).

But just overall, people are actually starting to break undernthe pressure of people like this asshole CEO. Voting and policy and laws are not solving any of the world's problems.

 

[Beebo Brink]

One less sociopath in the world.

 

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

empathy triage

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[Dakota Tebaldi]

The motive is still unknown - but perhaps this was a factor:

Yeah it's kind of interesting in a way - absolutely nothing whatsoever is known about the guy who did it, but almost everyone I've seen talking about it seems to have a pretty good handle on why he probably did it.

 

[detrius]

Shouldn't be worth of a headline more than all the other murders, including the ones carried out by his company.

 

[Jopsy Pendragon]

One is an anomaly, two a coincidence, three a trend...

Maybe if a few more billionaires ruck around and find out, they might act more ethically.


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Lol... yeah riiiIIIIIiiight.

 

[Ellie]

Next?

“This is just the latest in a long line of appalling behavior by commercial health insurers looking to drive their profits up at the expense of patients and physicians providing essential care,” said Donald E. Arnold, M.D., FACHE, FASA. “It’s a cynical money grab by Anthem, designed to take advantage of the commitment anesthesiologists make thousands of times each day to provide their patients with expert, complete and safe anesthesia care. This egregious policy breaks the trust between Anthem and its policyholders who expect their health insurer to pay physicians for the entirety of the care they need.”

Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield Won’t Pay for the Complete Duration of Anesthesia for Patients’ Surgical Procedures

 

[GoblinCampFollower]

As others have said, I have mixed feelings. The system is horrible and a lot of leadership is horrible though I never really feel comfortable with direct violence.

And I've also said before as someone who works in the industry, this industry MUST be heavily regulated and should be more regulated. One major reason I'm not a libertarian anymore is because working in real industry taught me market forces are not enough to make companies do the right thing. You need the "guns of government" as libertarians call it, to make them pay claims. The ACA was a big step in the right direction that has sense been gutted by Republicans.

 

[Cristiano]

 

[Noodles]

Well, at least the motive seems to be what everyone suspected.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/12/05/bullet-casings-unitedhealthcare-ceo-brian-thompson-shooting/76793218007/

The shell casings featured the words "deny," "defend" and "depose" written on them, multiple outlets reported, citing police sources familiar with the investigation.

 

[Khamon]

Well, at least the motive seems to be what everyone suspected.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/12/05/bullet-casings-unitedhealthcare-ceo-brian-thompson-shooting/76793218007/

There's the rally cry for the people who are "paying attention." I wonder which alternate terms the unsurance agencies will begin to use now. Blue Cross Blue Shield coverage, especially for Rx, is diminishing every year. It seems like a game that they play for fun.

 

[Noodles]

There's the rally cry for the people who are "paying attention." I wonder which alternate terms the unsurance agencies will begin to use now. Blue Cross Blue Shield coverage, especially for Rx, is diminishing every year. It seems like a game that they play for fun.

"Deny is a bad word now, instead we are, 'suggesting alternative care' instead of denying."

-- Insurers probably

 

[GoblinCampFollower]

There's the rally cry for the people who are "paying attention." I wonder which alternate terms the unsurance agencies will begin to use now. Blue Cross Blue Shield coverage, especially for Rx, is diminishing every year. It seems like a game that they play for fun.

I suspect it will only get worse with the new Trump administration preaching deregulation as a philosophy. Only thing that can fix this is just mandating that a huge list of services must be covered by plans.

 

[GoblinCampFollower]

"Deny is a bad word now, instead we are, 'suggesting alternative care' instead of denying."

-- Insurers probably

"Just lose weight and eat healthier!" lol.

 

[Beebo Brink]

As others have said, I have mixed feelings. The system is horrible and a lot of leadership is horrible though I never really feel comfortable with direct violence.

This (quite common) sensibility has allowed white-collar crime to flourish and with little of the cultural disapproval that we focus on street thugs.

 

[GoblinCampFollower]

This (quite common) sensibility has allowed white-collar crime to flourish and with little of the cultural disapproval that we focus on street thugs.

I've thought about that too. Because you're right. Part of it is also that white collar crime carries a strong element of plausible deniability that they really are robbing people. I've also thought a lot how early super hero comics focused on poor petty criminals or organized crime and not the MUCH BIGGER ONES.

It takes a sociopath to look you in the eye and rob you, but many can rationalize that more "clever" forms of theft aren't really theft.

 

[Noodles]

"Just lose weight and eat healthier!" lol.

Sure, I can do that.

(She says as she finishes off the bowl of ramen noodles she is eating for lunch)

 

[Noodles]

I've thought about that too. Because you're right. Part of it is also that white collar crime carries a strong element of plausible deniability that they really are robbing people. I've also thought a lot how early super hero comics focused on poor petty criminals or organized crime and not the MUCH BIGGER ONES.

It takes a sociopath to look you in the eye and rob you, but many can rationalize that more "clever" forms of theft aren't really theft.

If you shoot a man in the street its murder.

If you deny health care to 100,000 people who die of cancer, its just good business.

 

[Dakota Tebaldi]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/12/05/bullet-casings-unitedhealthcare-ceo-brian-thompson-shooting/76793218007/

Interesting. A reference to this book maybe?