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They don't just get worse, they get crazier.

"If a person has demonic possession — I know it's gonna sound really crazy to me saying that for some people, thinking like what?!" Karamo said in September 2020. "But having intimate relationships with people who are demonically possessed or oppressed — I strongly believe that a person opens themselves up to possession. Demonic possession is real."
Should we be running on an exorcism-denier platform?
 

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Should we be running on an exorcism-denier platform?
I'm wondering if the Republicans would support background checks for demonic possession before people are allowed to buy guns.
 

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Key takeaways: tl/dnr:
But only two factors came out again and again as highly predictive. The first was this variable called anocracy. It has this scale that goes from negative 10 to positive 10. Negative 10 is the most authoritarian, Positive 10 are the most democratic. The U.S. was a positive 10 for many, many years. It’s no longer a positive 10. [there is] this middle zone between positive 5 and negative 5, which was you had features of both. The U.S. was briefly downgraded to a 5 and is now an 8.

What scholars found was that this anocracy variable was really predictive of a risk for civil war. That full democracies almost never have civil wars. Full autocracies rarely have civil wars. All of the instability and violence is happening in this middle zone. And there’s all sorts of theories why this middle zone is unstable, but one of the big ones is that these governments tend to be weaker.

And then the second factor was whether populations in these partial democracies began to organize politically, not around ideology — so, not based on whether you’re a communist or not a communist, or you’re a liberal or a conservative — but where the parties themselves were based almost exclusively around identity: ethnic, religious or racial identity. The quintessential example of this is what happened in the former Yugoslavia.
The CIA also has a manual on insurgency. You can Google it and find it online. Most of it is not redacted. And it’s absolutely fascinating to read. It’s not a big manual. And it was written, I’m sure, to help the U.S. government identify very, very early stages of insurgency.

And the manual talks about three stages. First stage is pre-insurgency. And that’s when you start to have groups beginning to mobilize around a particular grievance. And they begin to articulate those grievances. And they begin to try to grow their membership.


The second stage is called the incipient conflict stage. And that’s when these groups begin to build a military arm. Usually a militia. And they’d start to obtain weapons, and they’d start to get training. And they’ll start to recruit from the ex-military or military and from law enforcement. Or they’ll actually — if there’s a volunteer army, they’ll have members of theirs join the military in order to get not just the training, but also to gather intelligence.

And the second stage, you start to have a few isolated attacks. And in the manual, it says, really the danger in this stage is that governments and citizens aren’t aware that this is happening. And so when an attack occurs, it’s usually just dismissed as an isolated incident, and people are not connecting the dots yet. And because they’re not connecting the dots, the movement is allowed to grow until you have open insurgency, when you start to have a series of consistent attacks, and it becomes impossible to ignore.
Oh, there’s so many things to say. One thing is that groups — we’ll call them violence entrepreneurs, the violent extremists who want to tear everything down and want to institute their own radical vision of society — they benefit from the element of surprise, right? They want people to be confused when violence starts happening. They want people to not understand what’s going on, to think that nobody’s in charge.

But also because people had a vested interest in distracting them or denying it so that when an attack happened, or when you had paramilitary troops sleeping in the hills outside of Sarajevo, they would make up stories. You know, “We’re just doing training missions.” Or “We’re just here to protect you. There’s nothing going on here. Don’t worry about this.”
 
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I have watched as various militant/extremists groups come together and wrecked havoc on our democracy and government for the last 40 years.

All of them are perfectly willing to use violence to get what they want. The article from the Intercept is interesting because it talks about how the racist white nationalists and the anti-abortionists (in reality, misogynists) have come together to form one group united under Trump. I'd also add to that the NRA and its extreme Second Amendment supporters. Now these extremists groups have taken over the Republican party. They are violent and they have power, lots of it and it should terrify all of us, whether we are liberal or conservative.

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The really scary part of all this is that when the NRA crazies, the racists and the anti-abortionists united, it added up, population wise, to nearly half the country. The fact that half the country is crazy enough to pick up weapons and kill the other half of their fellow Americans because of their politics, religion, race or beliefs is indicative of an inevitable insurrection.
 

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I have watched as various militant/extremists groups come together and wrecked havoc on our democracy and government for the last 40 years.

All of them are perfectly willing to use violence to get what they want. The article from the Intercept is interesting because it talks about how the racist white nationalists and the anti-abortionists (in reality, misogynists) have come together to form one group united under Trump. I'd also add to that the NRA and its extreme Second Amendment supporters. Now these extremists groups have taken over the Republican party. They are violent and they have power, lots of it and it should terrify all of us, whether we are liberal or conservative.

abortion-trump-right-wing-patriot-front

The really scary part of all this is that when the NRA crazies, the racists and the anti-abortionists united, it added up, population wise, to nearly half the country. The fact that half the country is crazy enough to pick up weapons and kill the other half of their fellow Americans because of their politics, religion, race or beliefs is indicative of an inevitable insurrection.
The only thing that is any comfort is that there is some significant overlap in all three groups.

Also, the US has dealt with this sort of christo-fascist BS before, and about as far back as the last time we had a world war.
 

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I have watched as various militant/extremists groups come together and wrecked havoc on our democracy and government for the last 40 years.

All of them are perfectly willing to use violence to get what they want. The article from the Intercept is interesting because it talks about how the racist white nationalists and the anti-abortionists (in reality, misogynists) have come together to form one group united under Trump. I'd also add to that the NRA and its extreme Second Amendment supporters. Now these extremists groups have taken over the Republican party. They are violent and they have power, lots of it and it should terrify all of us, whether we are liberal or conservative.

abortion-trump-right-wing-patriot-front

The really scary part of all this is that when the NRA crazies, the racists and the anti-abortionists united, it added up, population wise, to nearly half the country. The fact that half the country is crazy enough to pick up weapons and kill the other half of their fellow Americans because of their politics, religion, race or beliefs is indicative of an inevitable insurrection.
From what I've read, though, they rule so much of the country not because they necessarily enjoy a great deal of popular support but because they've been extremely good at gerrymandering at the state level. After they've once won power, they've diligently redrawn the electoral boundaries to ensure they keep it.
 

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From what I've read, though, they rule so much of the country not because they necessarily enjoy a great deal of popular support but because they've been extremely good at gerrymandering at the state level. After they've once won power, they've diligently redrawn the electoral boundaries to ensure they keep it.
Your correct, the religious right and other extremists have been very successful at a grass roots level.


This shit goes as far back as the 1980's when I saw them beginning to take over the Republican party.
 

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Of COURSE Cawthorn is still making news about how much of a criminal he is.

Trump should offer classes on how go get away with it. This is embarrassing (for a Republican). There is a lot of good knowledge on how to evade the law legally and illegally and poor suck ups like Cawthorn are still being caught with their pants down. McConnel, Et. Al., really have to up the education level of their fellow facists-in-waiting if they want to succeed with turning America into a banana republic.
 
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