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In that several of them are said to be in particular legal danger once a thorough investigation of who worked with whom to coordinate events in the days immediately preceding Jan 6 and on the day itself.

While all of them might be said to be complicit to a greater or lesser extent, several of them apparently have cause to fear their complicity may have legal consequences.
 

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In that several of them are said to be in particular legal danger once a thorough investigation of who worked with whom to coordinate events in the days immediately preceding Jan 6 and on the day itself.

While all of them might be said to be complicit to a greater or lesser extent, several of them apparently have cause to fear their complicity may have legal consequences.
Yup. Because at least 6 different congresscritters actively participated, as did at least Cruz and Tuberville.
 

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The DOJ isn't going to be able to do a damn thing about the traitor, at least in regard to his incitement. It would be seen as purely political. The traitor would surely be howling as would his sycophants/fellow traitors. I am thoroughly disgusted by the entire thing, completely and thoroughly disgusted by the so very many people who don't care about or don't understand democracy and am losing hope that he will ever face justice in any manner.

I'm becoming resigned to the fact that we will probably have him in the office of the president once more and god help us all.
I think he is going to find himself embroiled in court cases until he dies. Not that that would dissuade him from running.
 
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He wouldn't -really- run anyway. He just wants the idolation and money, not the work. But he really cannot be allowed to have that option - because if he lost? It'd be worse.

Of course, he might not have his base as they start realizing he screwed them over.
 

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I really do feel at this point, any gop who doesn't vote to convict needs investigating, or removal for being a bloody fool.
What I am posting in other places with comment space:

If they vote to acquit, first go after their major campaign donors, which you can look up at opensecrets.org. Get their donors to stop contributing, tell them why, boycott, threaten "X company supports insurrection" campaign, etc. Second, support whoever runs against them, assuming they are not also anti-democracy cretins. Third, pressure them to resign. If you get a standard form letter in return, post it on social media, send to newspapers, etc.
 

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What I am posting in other places with comment space:

If they vote to acquit, first go after their major campaign donors, which you can look up at opensecrets.org. Get their donors to stop contributing, tell them why, boycott, threaten "X company supports insurrection" campaign, etc. Second, support whoever runs against them, assuming they are not also anti-democracy cretins. Third, pressure them to resign. If you get a standard form letter in return, post it on social media, send to newspapers, etc.
Good idea - I'm pissed off at Scott and Rubio's lack of respect this week, and i'm always pissed off at Gaetz.

Also, found out about the Center Right Party today.....
 

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Ahead of the defense argument at Donald Trump's impeachment hearing on Friday, February 11, three Republicans met with the former President's lawyers to reportedly plan a "strategy". Following Thursday's closing arguments from House impeachment managers, Trump's lawyer David Shoen told reporters that he met with the Republicans with regard to the "procedure" for Friday's hearing.

The senators meeting with Trump's attorney has raised eyebrows as they have sworn an oath to "do impartial justice according to the Constitution and laws" during the trial. However, when asked by CNN's Mau Raju if it was appropriate for the jurors to meet with the former president's lawyer outside impeachment, Schoen said, “I think that’s the practice of impeachment. There’s nothing about this thing that has any semblance of due process whatsoever.”
 

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I don't think that the Dems will hold back on ads against them if they vote against conviction either. They will remind the public.
 

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I don't think that the Dems will hold back on ads against them if they vote against conviction either. They will remind the public.
The problem is, everything is so polarized, I don't think anyone will care.

"Both sides are equally liars so these ads are just the Democrats hating on Supreme God Emperor Trump". That sort of shit.
 
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This would be classified as jury tampering in a criminal trial and would likely land Mr. Frum in jail for contempt of court. The hole deepens, and widens, and welcomes all Republicans willing to sacrifice their lives to the hopeless white supremist cause. They continue to expose themselves and that's ultimately a good thing.
 
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As I understand it, the GOP has no way of keeping their party together; either they get rid of the fascists or their 'center-right' wing.

And the defense lawyers might not actually be lying, but they are still lying.
 
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Well. They got us there.
 
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Schoen is not only outright lying, but he wasn't even there....

But the House Managers were right - they aren't defending the ex-president, they are doing whataboutism
 

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The problem is, everything is so polarized, I don't think anyone will care.

"Both sides are equally liars so these ads are just the Democrats hating on Supreme God Emperor Trump". That sort of shit.
Yes, but the people saying that are going to vote for The Party of Donald J Trump anyway, be it the Republican Party or the Patriot Party or the MAGA Party or whatever party he graces with his leadership.
 
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look, it's fairly obvious all the bad actors in the Capitol protest were Anttifa plants, so I wish you people would just lay off of Donald, he did his best for ALL americans, and you need to respect that. Biden and Harris will silence all free speech and open gulags in America. Jet fuel doesn't melt steel beams, sandy hook was a psy op. Hitler was a communist and COVID is a (((liberal))) scam to vaccinate us with 5G nanobots for Bill Gates New New World Order.
 

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look, it's fairly obvious all the bad actors in the Capitol protest were Anttifa plants, so I wish you people would just lay off of Donald, he did his best for ALL americans, and you need to respect that. Biden and Harris will silence all free speech and open gulags in America. Jet fuel doesn't melt steel beams, sandy hook was a psy op. Hitler was a communist and COVID is a (((liberal))) scam to vaccinate us with 5G nanobots for Bill Gates New New World Order.
You must be watching today's proceedings.
 
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look, it's fairly obvious all the bad actors in the Capitol protest were Anttifa plants, so I wish you people would just lay off of Donald, he did his best for ALL americans, and you need to respect that. Biden and Harris will silence all free speech and open gulags in America. Jet fuel doesn't melt steel beams, sandy hook was a psy op. Hitler was a communist and COVID is a (((liberal))) scam to vaccinate us with 5G nanobots for Bill Gates New New World Order.
I just want to know if my 5G nanobots will let me stream HD video on my phone.