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Did he say what his reasons were?

Mostly, people point to the borders (immigrants), less money in their pockets, and/or abortion(religion).

I mean, if he says he never heard of project 25, then he must not have read up on much, so what made him do it?
He made up some shit to feed his wife, but she didn't buy it.

SHE was aware enough to not make the same mistake, but they basically washed each other's vote out.

I haven't talked to him yet. I'm afraid I won't be too kind. So for the moment I'm just shutting up.
 

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Did he say what his reasons were?

Mostly, people point to the borders (immigrants), less money in their pockets, and/or abortion(religion).

I mean, if he says he never heard of project 25, then he must not have read up on much, so what made him do it?
Its Taxes.

Its almost ALWAYS about Taxes.
 
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Its Taxes.

Its almost ALWAYS about Taxes.
No, it's not.

In my S-I-L's case, he bought into the whole immigrant nonsense. The R's appealed to his sense of loss as a man and a father - a loss which doesn't really exist.

That plus he's a man. A young man. He may have college degrees (I do too) but as far as common sense he's a schtoop.
 

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Womp womp.

At this point, I don't care anymore. Lets embrace the Trump stupidity and let these people get fucking wrecked. Sorry about the collateral damage, but maybe, just fucking maybe, these idiots will wake the fuck up.

I dount it though.
Pretty much my line of thinking now. They made their bed, let them lie in it.

It just sucks that the price of everything is going to shoot through the roof thanks to tariffs and mass deportations.
 

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I forgot, there’s also the whole anti-woke stuff.
I think a lot of anti-woke attitude derives from the toxic masculinity fueled sick ethos of: "It's a man's duty to beat the sissy-sickness out of a boy because coddling him leaves him weak and doomed to fail as a man!! It'll work eventually, and he'll thank me for it later!"
 

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That definitely tracks.

The problem with inflation is that nobody - low-information conservatives especially - seems to understand what it is or how it works. They see that prices are high and think inflation is high. They don't realize that prices don't actually go down unless the economy is cratering. I got into it with some Trumper on Threads about that, and ultimately ended up blocking him because I just couldn't with his blind ignorance.
 
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Womp womp.

At this point, I don't care anymore. Lets embrace the Trump stupidity and let these people get fucking wrecked. Sorry about the collateral damage, but maybe, just fucking maybe, these idiots will wake the fuck up.

I dount it though.
Pretty much my line of thinking now. They made their bed, let them lie in it.

It just sucks that the price of everything is going to shoot through the roof thanks to tariffs and mass deportations.
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Every time someone who voted for Trump tries to engage me in a discussion about anything related to politics or the economy in the US, I will shutdown the conversation. And as for my husband, (who revealed that he voted for Jill Stein instead of Kamala Harris), I'm going to buy one of these ... Trumpy Trout™ – The Talking Fish with Hilarious Animations & High Fidelity Speeches


So that every time he complains about Trump sending more money to Israel to commit genocide against the Palestinians (which is why he says he did not vote for Harris) or about Trump destroying our democracy, our economy, our public health and our country in general, he can get a Trump blowjob.

Every time I read that a pregnant woman dies because doctors are afraid to help her or because she got a botched abortion in a back alley, I'm going to press the button on the goddamn thing so he can hear Trump bellow another stupidity. ENJOY. :deadhorse:
 

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The R's appealed to his sense of loss as a man and a father - a loss which doesn't really exist.
I think a lot of straight white men just feel very threatened by the fact that they were becoming just another demographic, rather than the clearly dominant one. Equality feels like oppression to them. About 25% of straight white men accept this, and the rest just can't.
 

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And as for my husband, (who revealed that he voted for Jill Stein instead of Kamala Harris),
I've got a few relatives back east who are 'Idealists' and won't vote for someone they have a problem with. "Gotta send a message so that future candidates will know what they need to do to get my vote!" kind of idiocy.

"Yeah, I'm sure they know what they need to do to get your vote... and they know it would cost them more votes to get yours. So message received, and you've helped the opposition win by not being a team player."
 

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I've got a few relatives back east who are 'Idealists' and won't vote for someone they have a problem with. "Gotta send a message so that future candidates will know what they need to do to get my vote!" kind of idiocy.

"Yeah, I'm sure they know what they need to do to get your vote... and they know it would cost them more votes to get yours. So message received, and you've helped the opposition win by not being a team player."
How to have your vote count as "background noise."
 

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A major talking point in much of the Internet is the idea that the left pushed men away, so they voted Trump. ...I really think this is a total myth. The far right did an efficient job of reaching out to young men, and convinced them the left hated them. I can't think of any actual policies of the democrats that are anti-men or anti-working class etc. The belief the dems abandoned either is just.... "vibes."

Do some individual feminists post man hating shit? Yes... but actual democrat politicians never did anything of the sort. We judge republicans by their actual leaders. ...they judge democrats by random people on twitter...
 

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A major talking point in much of the Internet is the idea that the left pushed men away, so they voted Trump. ...I really think this is a total myth. The far right did an efficient job of reaching out to young men, and convinced them the left hated them. I can't think of any actual policies of the democrats that are anti-men or anti-working class etc. The belief the dems abandoned either is just.... "vibes."
My adult son - ADULT son - informed me that he voted Trump because he's opposed to CRT! :beatup:

I blew a gasket. CRT is another right wing red herring. The subject is only taught in advanced college classes if it's taught at all. HE SWALLOWED IT! I did NOT raise a dumbass. Or so I thought.

I have to control my burning anger and remind him that his sisters and I are essentially on Trump's enemies list. We're at risk for our health, our social security, our very lives.

Son is not happy. Mom is not happy. Who will win? Smart money is not on Son.
 

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My adult son - ADULT son - informed me that he voted Trump because he's opposed to CRT! :beatup:

I blew a gasket. CRT is another right wing red herring. The subject is only taught in advanced college classes if it's taught at all. HE SWALLOWED IT! I did NOT raise a dumbass. Or so I thought.

I have to control my burning anger and remind him that his sisters and I are essentially on Trump's enemies list. We're at risk for our health, our social security, our very lives.

Son is not happy. Mom is not happy. Who will win? Smart money is not on Son.
....by adult do you mean 18-25 or like 30+? Because yes.... that is really stupid. I bet he can't explain what CRT is either. I know plenty of chuds who think schools are just yelling at white men they are evil for being white... I'm frankly willing to bet your boy is a bit more indoctrinated by racist propaganda than he is letting on.