SCOTUS set to overturn Roe and Casey

[Govi]

Thread

Will they go after Viagra, too, which is probably vastly more in our effluent?

 

[Free]

*sigh*

Indiana's AG wants the doctor who spoke of 10-year-old's abortion to be penalized

Indiana Attorney General Todd Rokita, who is anti-abortion, alleges Dr. Caitlin Bernard violated state law by not reporting the girl's child abuse to authorities and violated patient privacy laws.

www.npr.org

 

[Free]

The informed public.

Abortion, Every Day (12.14.22)

Tennessee voters don't realize they have a total abortion ban

jessica.substack.com

A new poll out of Tennessee found the majority of the state is prochoice. Fifty-one percent of respondents said they were ‘definitely’ or ‘somewhat’ pro-choice while 47 percent called themselves ‘definitely’ or ‘somewhat’ pro-life. But here’s where it gets interesting: A huge majority of voters, 75%, want abortion to be legal in cases of rape and incest. That’s not surprising, we see numbers like that in most states.

But here’s the thing: Less than 20% of the people in Tennessee know that the state’s abortion ban has no exceptions. Thirty-six percent said they didn’t know what the state’s ban entailed, 23% thought the state had exceptions for rape, incest and life, and 21% thought it was legal with limits at various gestational ages. This is fucking wild to me! It means that Republicans are relying on the fact that voters don’t really understand how extreme their state’s abortion ban is. Democrats would be wise to start a serious awareness campaign…

 

[Innula Zenovka]

Anti-abortion US priest Frank Pavone defrocked by Vatican

Pavone had been investigated for placing an aborted foetus on an altar and posting a video of it online

www.theguardian.com

 

[Soen Eber]

Yay for the Vatican investigating and getting rid of him.

 

[Katheryne Helendale]

Yay for the Vatican investigating and getting rid of him.

Yep. I gave my WTF reaction in response to the priest doing what he did in the first place.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

Meanwhile, in the UK

Woman arrested 'after silently praying outside city abortion clinic'

Isabel Vaughan-Spruce, 45, charged with four counts of failing to comply with a Public Space Protection Order

www.birminghammail.co.uk

 

[Grandma Bates]

Finding new and ever more creative ways to abuse:

Judith_IP (@Judith_IP@mastodon.social)

The anti-choice folks have found another way to enable abusive men to terrorize women, by creating an "estate" of an aborted fetus, and suing no behalf of that estate. I hope state laws will fix this, because it's a horror story...

mastodon.social

 

[Innula Zenovka]

 

[Soen Eber]

Meanwhile, in the UK

Woman arrested 'after silently praying outside city abortion clinic'

Isabel Vaughan-Spruce, 45, charged with four counts of failing to comply with a Public Space Protection Order

www.birminghammail.co.uk

I'm having problems seeing how silent prayer anywhere can be an arresting offense.

 

[Katheryne Helendale]

I'm having problems seeing how silent prayer anywhere can be an arresting offense.

I'm guessing the "prayer" was neither silent nor inconspicuous.

 

[Erich Templar]

I'm having problems seeing how silent prayer anywhere can be an arresting offense.

From the article it seems that she had previously been part of a far more vocal protest and had an order against her restricting her from protesting outside the clinic. She was trying to evade the order.

Tbh, though, yes, it's a rather questionable arrest.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

I'm having problems seeing how silent prayer anywhere can be an arresting offense.

Because the area immediately around the clinic is subject to a Public Space Protection Order, which prohibits various activities in the immediate vicinity, specifically

i Protesting, namely engaging in any act of approval or disapproval or attempted act of approval or disapproval, with respect to issues related to abortion services, by any means. This includes but is not limited to graphic, verbal or written means, prayer or counselling,

ii Interfering, or attempting to interfere, whether verbally or physically, with a Robert Clinic service user, visitor or member of staff,

iii Intimidating or harassing, or attempting to intimidate or harass, a Robert Clinic service user, visitor or a member of staff,

iv Recording or photographing a Robert Clinic service user, visitor or member of staff or

v Displaying any text or images relating directly or indirectly to the termination of pregnancy

Robert Clinic, Station Road B30 | Birmingham City Council

Birmingham City Council download - Public Space Protection Orders | About Birmingham | Crime and safety | Community safety

www.birmingham.gov.uk

See

MPs back plans for abortion clinic buffer zones in England and Wales

Amendment to public order bill would make harassment of women by protesters a criminal offence

www.theguardian.com

Christian anti-abortion groups started protests outside abortion clinics over here some years ago, modelled on the the protests in the US. Members of Parliament, despite the Government's initial reservations, voted to ban them, since we don't want to see here scenes here similar to what we've seen reported in the US.

If she wants to pray in the street, she has only to walk a couple of hundred yards and do so round the corner.

 

[Free]

Certainly God can hear her prayers *anywhere*. So why did she pick that spot to do it from?

 

[Soen Eber]

Well, she has certainly made her bed then, no complaints.

I'd rather thought she would only get tagged with a loitering offense, but if there is no loitering charge in Britain I am rather relieved, it being the unofficial "go to" for a police officer saying "I don't like your looks and I don't give a damn about civil rights, get the h out of here".

 

[Innula Zenovka]

No, having seen what's happened in the USA, lawmakers have passed bi-partisan legislation, against the government's wishes, specifically to protect abortion clinics, their patients, and their staff, from protestors, particularly religiously-motivated ones.

European human rights law, to which Britain subscribes, views freedom of speech, assembly and religion as very important rights, but recognises several other rights, too, all of which may come into conflict with each other. It's therefore a basic principle that, when this happens, governments will have to restrict certain rights in order to protect others.

Government has to find the least restrictive and most proportionate way possible to do this, in an attempt to balance everyone's legitimate interests, but certainly some people's freedom of protest or religion don't automatically trump other people's rights to go about their lawful business in peace, free from harassment and intimidation.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

The anti-abortion movement just had a mask-off moment in Alabama | Moira Donegan

In Alabama, pregnant women are subjected to a work around law in the name of protecting the fetus: chemical endangerment of a child

www.theguardian.com

 

[Aribeth Zelin]

The anti-abortion movement just had a mask-off moment in Alabama | Moira Donegan

In Alabama, pregnant women are subjected to a work around law in the name of protecting the fetus: chemical endangerment of a child

www.theguardian.com

To me, even more telling is that these new laws make it a felony; these same states remove the right to -vote- from felons. If you can find a way to make all women felons, then women lose the right to vote.

 

[Soen Eber]

Has anyone run the math yet on how long it will take for the Republicans anti-life policies to reduce their own population to the point of no longer having a significant effect on national elections?

 

[Innula Zenovka]

People in abortion-restrictive US states economically disempowered – study

Wages, incarceration rates and unemployment benefits access worse when compared with states allowing the procedure

www.theguardian.com