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Idaho GOP lawmaker wants women charged with murder for seeking abortions, end to exceptions

“Homicide laws should apply equally to the preborn,” Shippy said, noting that he views laws on abortion in stark terms. Either the fetus has a “right to life” that the state should protect like any other life, he said, or the state has no business interfering in a woman’s pregnancy at all. If passed, the bill would not apply the law changes retroactively, only to future instances, and includes an exemption for doctors attempting to save a mother’s life if steps are also taken to save the fetus.
 

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I have to go an OB/GYN next week. Why? Because my friend needs/wants to get a tubal ligation done and the Doctor said he needed to talk to her husband or partner first before he'd agree to it. So I'm playing pretend husband so she can get shit done. I fucking hate this state.
 

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I started reading and "Wait, I thought Dancien is a guy.... oh, yeah, he IS a guy. And that's the point." I hate this timeline, too.
Republicans view women as nothing more than breeding stock, as walking* baby factories.

*walking limited to those steps needed to keep the house clean and make dear hubby a sandwich.
 

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Slate: You Might Be Shocked Which State Is Prosecuting a Stillbirth as a Murder

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Mark Joseph Stern: Can you tell us about the prosecution of Moira Akers? Because I know I was not the only person who was really surprised to see this going on in a Democratic state.

Karen Thompson:
And a state that has really strong protections for reproductive rights and against fetal personhood. In this case, Moira Akers had a stillbirth at home. She endured a traumatic labor and delivery. Her husband found her bleeding profusely and called 911 to take her to the hospital. That set off a chain of events that ultimately led to her arrest and prosecution. A nurse told the police: Go check her house to see what’s going on. And when the police arrived, they found the fetal remains. Ms. Akers said she had a stillbirth, and she didn’t know what to do. And state prosecutors charged her with first-degree murder.
The prosecutors claimed she gave birth to a live baby and then murdered it?

Yes. And what is so unique in this case is that, to prove its case, the state relied on Ms. Akers’ prior internet search history around abortion. That was seven months prior to her giving birth at home, very early in her pregnancy. Prosecutors also relied on her decision to forgo prenatal care and her decision to keep her pregnancy private—as well as something called the “lung float test,” which is exactly as it sounds. It’s a relic from the 17th century that’s being used by medical examiners as a way to determine whether a child was born alive or not, and it’s not effective. But they relied on all of these things to prove that Ms. Akers had an intent to commit murder. So the mens rea that was being floated was that she had the audacity to look up abortion, and somehow that behavior seven months earlier was enough to show that she had intent to kill a live-born child.
 

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This is horrific and I hope those prosecutors get fired. I really doubt this case says much about Maryland politics though. This just sounds like this is a classic case of overzealous prosecutors which seems to be close to the norm everywhere here. They seem to have an incentive to go for the throat every time something happens.
The problem seems to be the floating lung test, which seems of questionable validity but US prosecutors still rely on it. That's always a problem with expert evidence, I guess, which has certainly led to gross miscarriages of justice in the past.
 

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This is posted on Daily Kos, but under the ProPublica banner.

Tierra Walker had reached her limit. In the weeks since she’d learned she was pregnant, the 37-year-old dental assistant had been wracked by unexplained seizures and mostly confined to a hospital cot. With soaring blood pressure and diabetes, she knew she was at high risk of developing preeclampsia, a pregnancy complication that could end her life.

Her mind was made up on the morning of Oct. 14, 2024: For the sake of her 14-year-old son, JJ, she needed to ask her doctor for an abortion to protect her health.
Since this happens in Texas, you should be able to guess the rest of the story.
 

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Two major things have happened since Dobbs. The number of abortions nationwide has not diminished; in fact, it has increased. That is thanks to broadening public awareness of abortion pills, blue state providers protected by shield laws prescribing and shipping them into red states, and a smoothly running feminist pill-access underground distributing them free or at low cost.
The other development since Dobbs is that pregnancy in ban states is increasingly a fatal condition. An analysis of data through 2023 by the Gender Equity Policy Institute found that mothers living in states that banned abortion were nearly twice as likely to die during pregnancy, childbirth, or soon after giving birth as those in abortion-supportive states. Researchers at a June 9, 2025 symposium on the health impacts of abortion bans reported that since Dobbs, ban states have seen over 22,000 additional births, 478 excess infant deaths, and 59 excess pregnancy-associated deaths.

Meanwhile, maternal mortality fell 21 percent in states where abortion remained legally protected and accessible.