#JAILTOTHECHIEF- Shit Just Got Real

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To my mind, if/when he loses in November, Trump is going to claim the election was rigged, just as he complained in 2016 it was rigged even though he won, and, one way or another, the matter will have to be settled by the Supreme Court in Trump vs Biden just as, in 2000, they settled Bush vs Gore.

How that turns out is the big question, and one very likely possible outcome -- a partisan decision by the Supreme Court gives the disputed result to Trump -- terrifies me.
So, our fate will rest in the hands of the very same Supreme Court who declared Bush won, only now with two Trump-appointed judges.

Find me a blanket to hide under. We have lived with many atrocities and affronts to truth over the last 3 1/2 years. It feels insane, which Bronx warned us about, and each day brings new ones.. I think back to her warning us all and while I appreciate the warning, I don't know how to handle this, other than going out into the streets to be beaten.

What I need is an answer as to how to deal with this narcissist who controls the country. I imagine it's hard to expand personal experience with a narcissist to the nation level, but I'm at a loss. We can talk about legal means to remove him, but everything has failed as of now.
 
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There's an affront to truth, if I've ever seen it. Good lord, the boldness. sheer arrogance and lie is almost a beauty to behold, if it weren't for the fact that it's sheer propaganda, an affront. We are truly living out 1984, ffs.
 

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Just imagine...if Obama...had done...something like this...



I know, the "if Obama had" flagging is pretty much done to death. It just continues to pain me, because we all know the press would have gone to town and back on something like this around 2011.
 

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Do nor forget he held it upside down (and part of the prep was chasing away a priest). An upside down us flag is a sign of distress so I wonder what an upside down bible means?
It either means the holder is the Antichrist, or that the holder is a blithering idiot. Maybe both.
 
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To my mind, if/when he loses in November, Trump is going to claim the election was rigged, just as he complained in 2016 it was rigged even though he won, and, one way or another, the matter will have to be settled by the Supreme Court in Trump vs Biden just as, in 2000, they settled Bush vs Gore.

How that turns out is the big question, and one very likely possible outcome -- a partisan decision by the Supreme Court gives the disputed result to Trump -- terrifies me.
I almost hope he puts up a struggle at leaving. Just so his thinking he is all important can be shown to be wrong once and for all.
 
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To my mind, if/when he loses in November, Trump is going to claim the election was rigged, just as he complained in 2016 it was rigged even though he won, and, one way or another, the matter will have to be settled by the Supreme Court in Trump vs Biden just as, in 2000, they settled Bush vs Gore.

How that turns out is the big question, and one very likely possible outcome -- a partisan decision by the Supreme Court gives the disputed result to Trump -- terrifies me.
A long time ago when things were worst for me personally, my counselor said something to me that caught me by surprise. I'm not sure it was spot on exactly, but it did make sense to me. They said something about not grieving for my father before he had died. The implication was to grieve afterwards.

How is that relevant? Describing this terrifying scenario seems gratuitous to me, like grieving for my father before he had died would have been.

I think the connection that brings all this to mind is that back then I was terrified and felt that way for months. Lifelong damage was done even though back then I was eventually told that I was a success story, that getting better had not been a sure thing.

Consequently, I take talk of being terrified seriously. I advise people not to willingly entertain terrifying thoughts without a good practical reason.
 

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This article strikes me as either naive or arrogant. It's the kind of "That can't happen here" thinking that got us into this mess in the first place.
What it fails to recognize is that Trump NEVER behaves in a manner in which could be construed as giving a fuck about the country. He violates constitutional laws at will. What makes them think that this would be any different? They'll be scratching their head, bemoaning yet another violation by him when the day comes. We've had 3 1/2 years of him stomping all over us and every time people act like it's an anomaly. It's not. That's in his dna.

Oh, we could never have seen this coming. Really?
 

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A long time ago when things were worst for me personally, my counselor said something to me that caught me by surprise. I'm not sure it was spot on exactly, but it did make sense to me. They said something about not grieving for my father before he had died. The implication was to grieve afterwards.

How is that relevant? Describing this terrifying scenario seems gratuitous to me, like grieving for my father before he had died would have been.

I think the connection that brings all this to mind is that back then I was terrified and felt that way for months. Lifelong damage was done even though back then I was eventually told that I was a success story, that getting better had not been a sure thing.

Consequently, I take talk of being terrified seriously. I advise people not to willingly entertain terrifying thoughts without a good practical reason.
My advice, based on my personal and professional experience of having to deal with potentially quite overwhelming circumstances, and confirmed by the advice I received while being treated for quite a nasty cancer some years ago was not to waste time on the big picture, which you can't do anything about, and may never happen, but, instead, to concentrate on what you can do at the moment to prepare for the worst, and to try to avoid it.

In the present context, I would think for most Americans the best course of action would be to concentrate on doing everything possible to ensure that Biden wins with such a resounding majority that Trump's claims can't stand serious scrutiny, and on trying to flip the senate.

Obviously I don't know, but I would think, considering how rapidly and obviously Trump's mental condition is deteriorating, his Republican enablers must now be quite fearful of what a second Trump term might be like, so maybe the Supreme Court will remember their judicial oaths of impartiality.
 

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Don't shoot the messenger. In normal times, that article would be true, but I'm sure he's going to scream "VOTER FRAUD" if he loses. It's actually the center square on my election bingo card.
 

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Don't shoot the messenger. In normal times, that article would be true, but I'm sure he's going to scream "VOTER FRAUD" if he loses. It's actually the center square on my election bingo card.
He was screaming "voter fraud" in 2016 after he won, for God's sake, because he didn't want to accept he lost the popular vote.

He denied what the world had seen on TV when he didn't like the fact his inauguration was nowhere near as well attended as was Obama's.

He's got previous, as they say.
 

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The country is in crisis right now. All this talk is about what we've learned handling crises in our personal lives and thoughts on applying it.
My advice, based on my personal and professional experience of having to deal with potentially quite overwhelming circumstances, and confirmed by the advice I received while being treated for quite a nasty cancer some years ago was not to waste time on the big picture, which you can't do anything about, and may never happen, but, instead, to concentrate on what you can do at the moment to prepare for the worst, and to try to avoid it.
On my own, once upon a time, I consciously adopted the principle of "The here-and-now is important." This principle could have multiple interpretations. Being in the here-and-now (alive) is important and valuable. The here-and-now is more important than what might be. Situations more directly related to the here-and-now are more important than those less directly related.

I also had another principle. "Pick your spots." It was about being more effective by knowing when to let things go. In reality I just couldn't manage any other way. I had to limit myself. However, we must keep the big picture in mind with the details. Otherwise, we can't pick our spots very well.
In the present context, I would think for most Americans the best course of action would be to concentrate on doing everything possible to ensure that Biden wins with such a resounding majority that Trump's claims can't stand serious scrutiny, and on trying to flip the senate.

Obviously I don't know, but I would think, considering how rapidly and obviously Trump's mental condition is deteriorating, his Republican enablers must now be quite fearful of what a second Trump term might be like, so maybe the Supreme Court will remember their judicial oaths of impartiality.
I'm not sure Trump's condition is deteriorating as much as his circumstances are deteriorating. The people around him are less able to shield him, and events are far more challenging than before. We could just be seeing him more clearly.

Ideally I would focus on flipping the Senate. Hopefully Trump goes one way or another after that. Either Trump loses to Biden or gets impeached. However, I'm afraid the Democrats are too disorganized to take on more than one election at a time which brings us back to pushing Biden. (Pick your spots.) Hmmm. Certain Republicans seem to be doing a better job of that right now.

People should be terrified some other day. It wastes energy.
 
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