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I don’t understand what makes you think I’d vote for any Republican for the next 30 years. Nor have I voted for one for President for the past 30 years.
I don't think you would vote Republican. I was pointing out there are evils as bad as the orange one out there in response to your writing "I’d literally vote for the dog catcher (or the dog) before I’d vote for Trump or sit it out. "
 

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Clinton is... I don't know what the fuck Clinton is. Desperate? Deranged? Mad that nobody cares about her anymore? Hopefully her endgame is more interesting than the build up.
I don't know what she is either, but "deranged" is a bit strong. The gold standard of derangement is the guy squatting in the White House.
I'm tired of hearing about Hillary and her supposed Machiavellian machinations. I think they're overblown. Oh, there's probably plenty of plotting and planning behind the scenes, there are probably more politicians that do that than not. That's politics, isn't it?
 

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While I don't like the idea of another candidate running on the "I am a billionaire"-platform, I do appreciate Bloomberg's involvement because it could remind you Americans of what an actual billionaire and successful businessman looks like.


Also, "Sanders/Bloomberg 2020" sounds interesting. Would that be a possibility?
 
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Funny how people can dismiss well-connected people who have network contacts in the media for days and yet get bugs up their ass about a few memes on Facebook or Twitter.
 

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Funny how people can dismiss well-connected people who have network contacts in the media for days and yet get bugs up their ass about a few memes on Facebook or Twitter.
Not sure what's going on with the forum here but this came up as a response to/quote of my last post. If it's addressed to me, than WTF? I didn't mention memes, Facebook, or Twitter in that post and I sure as hell don't have a "bug up my ass" about them.
And there a lot of "well-connected people with contacts in the media" besides the one that was being singled out, which was kind of my point.
And I'm tired of hearing about all of them, actually.
 
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I don't think you would vote Republican. I was pointing out there are evils as bad as the orange one out there in response to your writing "I’d literally vote for the dog catcher (or the dog) before I’d vote for Trump or sit it out. "
I really don't need to be lectured over a figure of speech. FFS.
 
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I don't know what she is either, but "deranged" is a bit strong. The gold standard of derangement is the guy squatting in the White House.
I'm tired of hearing about Hillary and her supposed Machiavellian machinations. I think they're overblown. Oh, there's probably plenty of plotting and planning behind the scenes, there are probably more politicians that do that than not. That's politics, isn't it?
I'm tired of hearing about Hillary Clinton, period. But since she seems so insistent on remaining relevent, I guess we have not heard the last dumb and wrong thing from her.
 

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Ah yes and here we go once again with the "handful of memes" bullshit.

You had the benefit of the doubt last time and were taken to task by others. Not this time. You're more worried about someone who is not even in the fucking running, pulling strings behind the scenes than you are about the very fucking tactics that helped to disrupt the election system the last time ...

Point blank you just showed that unless your preferred candidate(s) get nominated, you'll grasp at whatever comes out/crops up as the explanation.

Yes, that is exactly how you're coming across - own it.

Own it and fuck right off with it.
 
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Ah yes and here we go once again with the "handful of memes" bullshit.

You had the benefit of the doubt last time and were taken to task by others. Not this time. You're more worried about someone who is not even in the fucking running, pulling strings behind the scenes than you are about the very fucking tactics that helped to disrupt the election system the last time ...

Point blank you just showed that unless your preferred candidate(s) get nominated, you'll grasp at whatever comes out/crops up as the explanation.

Yes, that is exactly how you're coming across - own it.

Own it and fuck right off with it.
Fuck yourself up the ass with a cactus. You're the idiot worried about abstract memes suppressing votes when the obvious meddling to shape the media narrative from a well-connected and influential person in the party is right in front of our faces. Our media functions like state media a lot of the time, with vigorous discussion within certain bounds. They manufacture consent all the time. If Hillary got a concussion and then decided to stop lying and pushing the Bernie hurt me because he didn't roll over right away even though he did 4x as much as I did for Obama narrative, public opinion would shift. But she keeps it up for that very reason.
 
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Yep, about the response I figured you'd pull out of your ass. Dismiss a tactic that actually worked and was quite a bit more involved than the simple posting of memes, all because your Chosen One didn't get what you believe he deserved.

Point blank for you: There was a whole fucking lot more going on in 2016 than you'd like to admit and now you're quite literally eating up every little thing that pretends to explain why The Great and Holy One did not get the nomination (and thus why we're stuck with the piece of shit we have) that you really cannot so much as entertain the idea that perhaps - just perhaps - you've been duped into such an oversimplification.

Vote for whomever the fuck you please during the primaries, for whatever reason you please. At the end of it, make good and damned sure that your vote during the actual election goes to getting the piece of shit out of office.

That is all that really matters at this point - no single fucking candidate is going to be able to make good on their promises without having total fucking control over the government for the next four to eight years. It is simply not happening. Deal with it.

We need damage control and a stopgap, not wishing for a fucking pony.

Oh yes and since you're oh so worried about a non-candidate controlling the media narrative (do you have any idea how that sounds to any rational person by the by) perhaps you'd like to explain exactly why you're so fixated on dismissing the tactics used in the last election cycle - the same ones that will be employed on a larger scale this cycle mind you - as .... abstract memes ...

I mean, it is not as if most media during the last cycle gave the shit stain free publicity and ran with whatever floated across the internet at the time, now is it? Media that - according to you and your oh so lovely little theory anyway - should have handed the election over to the Democratic Nominee at the time.

It couldn't possibly be because you have a bias that is clouding your vision, now could it? Oh no! You're as unbiased as they come, aren't you?

Own your bias, own your bullshit.

Good job missing the mark once more, by the by. You do not get to complain about other users reading into your posts when you do the exact same thing. See, I'm responding to what you have said - over the last few months. Choose your words a bit more carefully and perhaps you won't have nearly as many problems.
 
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Vote for whomever the fuck you please during the primaries, for whatever reason you please. At the end of it, make good and damned sure that your vote during the actual election goes to getting the piece of shit out of office.
You mean like I did last time, you sanctimonious tool? I don't need the lecture.

You are just as predictable.
 
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Predictable? Really? My tendency to react rather strongly to bullshit aside, so far you have managed to swing and miss each and every single time you've responded to me in such threads.

If your plan is to vote for whomever gets the nomination and if you actually understand what has been laid out for you - act like it.
 
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I don't give a shit how you feel, if you can't take people speaking their perspective that's your problem. I've already said multiple times that I'm going to vote for the nominee. Grow thicker skin if you can't handle people pointing out the obvious manipulations and corruption of the system.
 
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Another swing/miss from you.

My issue thus far is your level of fixation on something that is - at best - only a part of the problem that will be faced this cycle (and was faced last cycle) while being dismissive of anything else. You act as though there is some grand conspiracy to keep a candidate whom you believe to be our best shot from being nominated. Yes, that is exactly how you're coming across.

Any time someone dares to counter you, you pull the exact shit you've pulled in response to me - even if it is worded a fair bit more politely.

What you say and how you have acted do not agree with each other.

Oh yes and look in the mirror sometime.
 

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I don't feel the need to get up and tell people what to do all the time. I discuss issues and then you white knight and purport tell me what to do. Really, go fuck yourself. People can be really unhappy with the system and still vote for the lesser evil. That's why we are where we are today.
 
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JFC, you're back to this shit again, eh? In the thread that got deleted you were told EXACTLY how Russia interfered, in what manner (there were many different methods) yet here you are again.

Bloody hell. I'm going to have to go and find my fucking post from months ago. I don't appreciate that and I doubt you'll pay any attention, AGAIN.