Democratic Party Presidential Candidates for 2020

[Cristalle]

I don't think she engenders the same level of resentment and mistrust as Hillary did. Kamala will be easier to accept, I think, because she doesn't have decades of smears or questionable practices. But the corporate PAC thing is going to be a serious issue. You can't take that money and expect us to believe that the investment won't somehow be repaid.

 

[Pamela]

I continue to be absolutely stunned that over 40% of voters prefer the blatantly obvious con man. How is it possible that this much of the population is this blind/stupid/evil???

 

[Cristalle]

Let's remember: NATIONAL polling is not the same as state level polling. He could still win if all those responses are concentrated on the coasts. The national polling numbers in 2016 ended up being pretty much right but she still lost because the blue states overperformed. He could still win. And yes, there are a lot of stupid people in this country.

 

[Jolene Benoir]

I continue to be absolutely stunned that over 40% of voters prefer the blatantly obvious con man. How is it possible that this much of the population is this blind/stupid/evil???

Agreed, though I am happy to see the gals polling not far behind Sanders and Biden. That 3-5% is the % that worries me. Amongst those who genuinely support either Biden or Sanders are those who refuse to consider electing a woman. I'm positive that there is a contingent of that among the Bernie bros who support Sanders.

And yep, I don't trust polls since 2016. We need a really, really large gap to account for either the Trumpers who lie and/or Red America.

 

[Cristalle]

Riddle me this: who the hell is John Delaney and what the hell does he stand for? I didn't know who he is but his name has popped up as someone who's running. Back to Google...

 

[Katheryne Helendale]

Riddle me this: who the hell is John Delaney and what the hell does he stand for? I didn't know who he is but his name has popped up as someone who's running. Back to Google...

A Democratic congressman from Maryland from 2013 to current. He's a centrist, according to his Wikipedia page.

 

[Cristalle]

Could John Delaney Beat Donald Trump in 2020? - The Atlantic

But who, exactly, is he?

Delaney, who represents Maryland’s Sixth Congressional District, which stretches from Appalachia to the Washington suburbs, is often described as a political moderate. In reality, he checks several progressive boxes: He’s a proponent of universal health care (though not a single-payer system), a $15 minimum wage, and the expansion of early-childhood education. Last month, he joined a bipartisan group of lawmakers to propose carbon-tax legislation. “The way I go about getting progressive things done is by finding common ground,” Delaney said.

There are some good things on his issues page. I am curious to get more specificity, though. https://www.johnkdelaney.com/issues/

 

[Han Held]

Honestly? I think Dakota has the right idea -I'm keeping my eyes and mind open but waiting a good, long while before I put my money (time, energy) on anyone.

 

[Kara Spengler]

I continue to be absolutely stunned that over 40% of voters prefer the blatantly obvious con man. How is it possible that this much of the population is this blind/stupid/evil???

Actually, i have two takeaways from that.

The first is the number for him is pretty consistent. Meaning it really does not matter who he is matched against or what their policies are. So the Ds may as well go for broke.

The second is the undecided number. Who does not have an opinion either way between donnie and not donnie?

 

[Katheryne Helendale]

I'm kind of looking at all of the candidates looking at who has the best chance of beating Trump. Joe Biden probably has the best chance, but honestly, I'm getting tired of old white guys running the government. I believe we need younger, fresher blood in the Oval Office, around Obama's age, if not maybe a bit younger. I'd prefer female, and am hoping Harris or Warren can show themselves to be able to beat Trump.

But, in all honestly, I don't know if I can be that picky. If someone rises to the forefront as a candidate capable of handily beating Trump, I will stand behind that candidate, and then stand behind whoever wins the Primary.

 

[Dakota Tebaldi]

I continue to be absolutely stunned that over 40% of voters prefer the blatantly obvious con man. How is it possible that this much of the population is this blind/stupid/evil???

Oanin d'libs!

 

[Kaimi Kyomoon]

When I was in California it really struck me how much Harris genuinely was liked and made people feel they were being represented.

On Twitter the hashtag #kamalaharrisisacop has been going around for quite a while. It seems to be posted the most by very left leaning people, most of whom don’t seem to be in California.

If this is going to be a repeat of the Bernie Bros that’s pretty maddening.

I'm glad I voted for her.

 

[Brian]

I disagree fairly strongly on the not being able to criticize a woc having done things like defend a man who falsified a confession, and pushing an initiative that jails parents for their children's truancy, per Porsupah's link. Working in a system designed to harm poc and being of color yourself does not justify doing things like that. We are aware of *some* poc who are anything but concerned about justice (David Clarke?).

That said, of course, of course, she is going to be brutalized in ways that no male candidate or even the other female candidates will be, primarily because she is a woc. This country hates women and it really, really hates woc. Democrats vetting her on her record is going to be nothing compared to what the dirty, nasty, racist, sexist Republicans come up with and it's already in full gear against any woman and in particular against her.

I am still concerned that a female cannot win the election, period, no matter who it is because this country is so assbackward. With Trump and his hate army the misogynists and racists are in full motion, perhaps in ways they would not be in his absence. The man stole the Presidency with the help of Russia, is the most corrupt and incompetent President we've ever had, and they still support him over a female.

As hyperbolic as Palmer Report can be (which I agree), he's not wrong in this case.
Porsupa's link, and your reply, is the perfect example.

Good news about not overlooking her defending that prosecutor's actions - she never did that.
She tried to prevent the indictment against the defendant being thrown out, because they had a slam dunk case against him before the forgery.

But let's label it as defending the bad prosecutor and his forgery, why?

General truancy and jailing parents . . .
Not exactly. I'm sure there were limited types of cases. AND - only cases involving Elementary school.
Forgive me if this strikes anyone as petty, but if 5 - 9 year-olds have a truancy problem to an extent authorities are alarmed, some parents just might belong in fucking jail.

That piece ends with a condescending rebuke because she wrote a book and didn't make herself look bad like they feel she had an obligation to do.

Now for all of the so called progressives offended for being called out? Too fucking bad. It was very much earned.

 

[Cristalle]

Stop being such a tool, Brian. I don't know what exactly Palmer is responding to, but no one is safe from an honest review of their record. But he's not being honest, either, by calling any critique of her a smear just because she is a woman of color. As a woman of color, there will be smears and double standards - but an honest look at her record is not a smear. Kamala Harris will have to answer for some of her choices. Her record isn't perfect, no one's is. There are serious concerns that she will have to answer.

As for some of the policy choices: if you think that jailing parents is going to make life better for a kid with truancy issues, you're really fucked in the head. Sure, take away the means to provide for the child. Obviously they have issues that have to be addressed but jail isn't a solution.

There are a number of concerns about her trying to defend dirty prosecutions where exculpatory evidence was withheld from the defense. She will have to answer for that.

If she can't handle people questioning her choices, she shouldn't be running for higher office.

 

[Cristalle]

And Pete Buttigieg is joining the circus: Indiana Mayor Pete Buttigieg announces 2020 exploratory committee

 

[Kara Spengler]

And Pete Buttigieg is joining the circus: Indiana Mayor Pete Buttigieg announces 2020 exploratory committee

Kicking off the round where people start saying 'who'.

 

[Brian]

Stop being such a tool, Brian. I don't know what exactly Palmer is responding to, but no one is safe from an honest review of their record. But he's not being honest, either, by calling any critique of her a smear just because she is a woman of color. As a woman of color, there will be smears and double standards - but an honest look at her record is not a smear. Kamala Harris will have to answer for some of her choices. Her record isn't perfect, no one's is. There are serious concerns that she will have to answer.

As for some of the policy choices: if you think that jailing parents is going to make life better for a kid with truancy issues, you're really fucked in the head. Sure, take away the means to provide for the child. Obviously they have issues that have to be addressed but jail isn't a solution.

There are a number of concerns about her trying to defend dirty prosecutions where exculpatory evidence was withheld from the defense. She will have to answer for that.

If she can't handle people questioning her choices, she shouldn't be running for higher office.

Don't even try that condescending bullshit.

A child that is that young does not have issues as you are suggesting.
ELEMENTARY school aged, and specifically what I stated - 5 to 9 yrs old with a truancy problem is NOT a problem anyone but their custodian has.

Nor is defending the need to prosecute a sexual predator the same thing as defending illegal tactics or actors.

I am sure Jolene can determine the dishonesty you are throwing out here.

This is why you are failing, but you go ahead and be you.

 

[Cristalle]

Tool gotta keep toolin'... Yeah, you go ahead and be you, Brian. Keep missing out on why people don't necessarily trust some of these people. Go ahead, blame everyone else! Why don't you go find the honest critiques and then come back, ok? Or is that too much of a stretch? I linked a video before that is pretty balanced, you can start there.

 

[Free]

I think I need to make this clear: I am not voting for any of you.

 

[Veritable Quandry]

I think I need to make this clear: I am not voting for any of you.

I am promising a taco truck on every corner...