Democratic Party Presidential Candidates for 2020

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And here's now an important interlude from some billionaires: Louise J. Bowditch, Robert S. Bowditch, Abigail Disney, Sean Eldridge, Stephen R. English, Agnes Gund, Catherine Gund, Nick Hanauer, Arnold Hiatt, Chris Hughes, Molly Munger, Regan Pritzker, Justin Rosenstein, Stephen M. Silberstein, Ian T. Simmons, Liesel Pritzker Simmons, Alexander Soros, George Soros, and Anonymous, and their message is: tax us more!

 

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And here's now an important interlude from some billionaires: Louise J. Bowditch, Robert S. Bowditch, Abigail Disney, Sean Eldridge, Stephen R. English, Agnes Gund, Catherine Gund, Nick Hanauer, Arnold Hiatt, Chris Hughes, Molly Munger, Regan Pritzker, Justin Rosenstein, Stephen M. Silberstein, Ian T. Simmons, Liesel Pritzker Simmons, Alexander Soros, George Soros, and Anonymous, and their message is: tax us more!

But how will the Koch brothers be able to afford their twentieth luxury yacht if you raise their taxes? Have you thought about them?
 

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I live in Alaska and wat is this
I live in DC. We did not even get to vote in the presidential election until the 50s. Since that time it has been the bluest electoral vote in the country in every election so the only campaign adds we see are on the news or aimed at a nearby state (ie, neither party bothers to contest it). In 2016 HRC got 90+ percent of the vote here.
 

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I live in DC. We did not even get to vote in the presidential election until the 50s. Since that time it has been the bluest electoral vote in the country in every election so the only campaign adds we see are on the news or aimed at a nearby state (ie, neither party bothers to contest it). In 2016 HRC got 90+ percent of the vote here.
  1. We didn't get to vote in the presidential election until the sixties (statehood in 58)
  2. The entire west coast tends to get written off. Hell, they called the election for Reagan before the polls even closed in California in 1980. By the time the polls close in Alaska and Hawaii it's all over but the shouting.
  3. Speaking of preordained ...no matter who votes for whom, Alaska is a red state. It always has been, it always will be. TBH I usually end up wondering why I even bother (bother voting for anything other that state issues and state offices, that is).
 

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Here's Elizabeth Warren's stance on healthcare, as voiced to the American public during tonight's debate:
Warren said she supports Sen. Bernie Sanders’s proposal for a Medicare-for-all plan. She cited her past as an academic who studied why Americans go broke, saying medical costs were a major cause of bankruptcies, even in families with insurance.

“Medicare-for-all solves that problem,” she said. “And I understand, there are a lot of politicians who say, ‘Oh, it’s not possible.’…What they’re really telling you is, they just won’t fight for it. Well, health care is a basic human right. And I will fight for basic human rights.”
Not the least bit equivocal.
 

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Here's Elizabeth Warren's stance on healthcare, as voiced to the American public during tonight's debate:

Not the least bit equivocal.
I would really like to believe her. If she walks it back with some mealy mouthed mumbo jumbo like she's been doing for the last couple of months, I will not believe her.
 

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Playing Devil's advocate for a moment, people -can- change their stances on things - notable case of a SC Justice who was appointed by Nixon, who became quite progressive [in part because of his daughter]. That said, I still don't think I can vote for Biden even in the general; I still think he's more dangerous because people are more likely to cooperate with him than with twitler, on both sides of the aisle.
 
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Playing Devil's advocate for a moment, people -can- change their stances on things - notable case of a SC Justice who was appointed by Nixon, who became quite progressive [in part because of his daughter]. That said, I still don't think I can vote for Biden even in the general; I still think he's more dangerous because people are more likely to cooperate with him than with twitler, on both sides of the aisle.
Biden isn't going to try to start a war just to distract from his latest rape scandal.
Biden isn't going to try to have his political enemies jailed.
Biden isn't going to try to put babies in cages.
Biden isn't going to sell the country to the Russians.
Biden might not fix some major things that need fixing, but he isn't going to break things just for the fun of breaking them.
Biden isn't talking about third and fourth terms.

His issues are being too moderate and status quo, not putting the entire world in danger. Another four years of Trump and you won't even get to vote for your preferred candidate next time - because next time won't be happening.

I'm not saying that Biden is the ideal candidate. What I am saying is that if it comes down to him vs. Trump, or /anyone/ versus Trump - there is literally no reason not to get out and vote for the other option, unless you're interested in living in an authoritarian regime going forward.
 

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Right now I'd rather vote for that cat which was made the mayor of a town in Colorado, than either not vote or vote for any Republican.
 

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Here's Elizabeth Warren's stance on healthcare, as voiced to the American public during tonight's debate:

Not the least bit equivocal.
Too bad she could not have said that months ago. When everyone was saying what they supported she seemed wishy washy on the matter. That became the first impression people got about her stance on the subject. Unfortunately that tends to be a problem with academics, they want to give a long drawn out sentence with clauses, subclauses, and conditions when a simple 'yes' or 'no' would be 10000000 times better.
 

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Biden isn't going to try to start a war just to distract from his latest rape scandal.
Biden isn't going to try to have his political enemies jailed.
Biden isn't going to try to put babies in cages.
Biden isn't going to sell the country to the Russians.
Biden might not fix some major things that need fixing, but he isn't going to break things just for the fun of breaking them.
Biden isn't talking about third and fourth terms.

His issues are being too moderate and status quo, not putting the entire world in danger. Another four years of Trump and you won't even get to vote for your preferred candidate next time - because next time won't be happening.

I'm not saying that Biden is the ideal candidate. What I am saying is that if it comes down to him vs. Trump, or /anyone/ versus Trump - there is literally no reason not to get out and vote for the other option, unless you're interested in living in an authoritarian regime going forward.
Whenever someone comes up with an argument like that to support the centrist candidate I wonder what their reaction would be if I used the same argument to say they should support the most progressive one.
 

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Whenever someone comes up with an argument like that to support the centrist candidate I wonder what their reaction would be if I used the same argument to say they should support the most progressive one.
This wasn't a response to which candidate to support. It was a response to "if he's the candidate I won't vote for him". If you're asking me if I'd support a progressive candidate, the answer is of course. My whole point was I would support literally any dem who gets the nomination.
 

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