Democratic Party Presidential Candidates for 2020

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

 

[Cristalle]

Except for the post I was responding to.

Right, the person who is in a solidly blue district where winning the D primary is the same as the general election. Let's bully this person into continually endorsing our two-party corporatocracy.

 

[Han Held]

Let's bully this person into continually endorsing our two-party corporatocracy.

Indeed

 

[Cristiano]

Incidentally, your high horse is a fucking pony. In this exchange, it was you who resorted to personal insults (eg: delousions) I have not. (ETA feel free to count the pony bit as one, if you like.)

I won't explain the concept of swearing for emphasis, It's a concept that you ought to be familar with it by now.

You made it personal, not me, by claiming how much more diplomatic you think you were compared to me. You're getting all riled up, not me, and being condescending as hell in the process.

 

[Han Held]

You made it personal, not me, by claiming how much more diplomatic you think you were compared to me.

My point was that I've tried to actually find some sort of middle ground (eg repeatedly stressing that I agree that whoever wins we should vote democrat), whereas you have gone ...from day one... on the anti-bernie attack posting any and every attack meme and hit piece you could find.

So I pointed that out, and I stand by that.

I'm less than upset if you view that as a personal affront.

Condescending -what the FUCK do you want from me? To roll on my back and piss myself like a dog? Well, that ain't happening, any more than us bridging the gap between us is going to happen.

So I repeat -what the fuck do you want from me?

 

[Cristiano]

I have also agreed from day one that we should vote for whoever gets the nomination, including Bernie in 2016 if it came to that, so I'm not sure why you are getting up on your own high horse. What I want is for you to dial it down a few fucking notches. On second thought, I don't care. Do or say what you want. I'm done giving a shit.

 

[Han Held]

I'm done giving a shit too -hey, look! That's two things we agree on!
yay for consensus.

 

[Cristiano]

I'm done giving a shit too -hey, look! That's two things we agree on!
yay for consensus.

Look, I don't want to argue with you, honestly. I like and respect you. We all have our pressure points. Can we just call a truce and move on?

 

[Han Held]

Look, I don't want to argue with you, honestly. I like and respect you. We all have our pressure points. Can we just call a truce and move on?

I would like that, a lot; thank you.

 

[Cristiano]

Joe Biden Loses Support From Top Donor After Segregationist, Hyde Amendment Comments: Report

Tom McInerney also told CNBC he didn't think the former vice president had performed well in this week's Democratic primary debate.

www.huffpost.com

 

[Cristiano]

She is constantly having to apologize for her right wing past - so it doesn't surprise me that the right consider her still one of their own.

Tulsi Gabbard Is Having A MAGA Moment After Her Debate Performance

“I think a lot of people would vote for her over Trump,” Mike Cernovich said. “MAGA people.” Ann Coulter is considering it.

www.buzzfeednews.com

 

[Cristiano]

Speaking of questions only one candidate gets asked:

Chris Matthews Asked Kamala Harris to Explain Why She Doesn't Hate White People. Here's the Answer [Corrected]

Shortly after Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) finished her cool-down exercises after forcing the former Pinky to Barack Obama’s Brain into submission with a Rear Naked Chokehold before a live television audience, she sat down with chronic interrupter and MSNBC pundit Chris Matthews to explain how she...

www.theroot.com

 

[Cristiano]

I'm not sure how you mischaracterize a direct quote.

Bernie Sanders said debate moderator Rachel Maddow was 'mischaracterizing' his words on gun control when she was using a direct quote from him

The Vermont senator has been haunted over the years for flip flopping on gun control issues.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[Cristiano]

Bernie Sanders decries 'ageism' after Eric Swalwell criticism of Joe Biden in Democratic debate

Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, 77, was responding to attacks from Rep. Eric Swalwell, 38. "Judge people on the totality of who they are," he said.

www.usatoday.com

 

[Soen Eber]

Speaking of questions only one candidate gets asked:

Chris Matthews Asked Kamala Harris to Explain Why She Doesn't Hate White People. Here's the Answer [Corrected]

Shortly after Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) finished her cool-down exercises after forcing the former Pinky to Barack Obama’s Brain into submission with a Rear Naked Chokehold before a live television audience, she sat down with chronic interrupter and MSNBC pundit Chris Matthews to explain how she...

www.theroot.com

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[Cristalle]

She is constantly having to apologize for her right wing past - so it doesn't surprise me that the right consider her still one of their own.

Tulsi Gabbard Is Having A MAGA Moment After Her Debate Performance

“I think a lot of people would vote for her over Trump,” Mike Cernovich said. “MAGA people.” Ann Coulter is considering it.

www.buzzfeednews.com

They don't. It's not for cultural issues why she gets independents or some on the right. The anti-interventionist right is willing to overlook certain things to stop the wars, which happens to be a good thing. It's easy to smear, which the establishment left is happy to do to tear her down. They're the ones bringing this stuff up and completely ignoring her actual record of governing, which is near perfect on this issue.

 

[Cristiano]

They don't. It's not for cultural issues why she gets independents or some on the right. The anti-interventionist right is willing to overlook certain things to stop the wars, which happens to be a good thing. It's easy to smear, which the establishment left is happy to do to tear her down. They're the ones bringing this stuff up and completely ignoring her actual record of governing, which is near perfect on this issue.

I'm not sure you can chalk up Ann Coulter, Tucker Carlson, Matt Drudge and Breitbart fawning over her as merely the left trying to tear her down.

 

[Cristiano]

I definitely like the concept of a universal basic income. I hope it is a concept others buy into.

 

[danielravennest]

Umm Bernie's "new idea" of medicare for all is the one all the youngins are trying to take. ;p

Yeah, but the young'uns aren't already ON Medicare

 

[danielravennest]

Meanwhile, back on topic:

Buttigieg has risen in the polls with impressive strength given how little known he was at this time last year. But no matter how impressed I've been, I never really believed he could secure the nomination against the current competition.

The Democratic field is so strong this time that I hope whoever is nominated takes advantage and invites some of them to join their administration should they win. For example, imagine Harris as Attorney General, going after Trump.