Charlie Kirk Shot and Killed In Utah

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Funny enough, earlier I was wondering how long until they started comparimg him to MLK for "fighting for civil rights".

The real thing to wonder is, do they get the horrible level of irony they've shifted us all to.

 

[Willow Matthews]

Americans let this happen. I know you guys, in the main. None of you wanted this. I know that.
But now this shit stain of a man is seriously fucking up the world. I can't vote him out.

By this stage, I doubt if you guys are going to have the chance to do that either.

Try to fix it before I'm dead. I have a grandson to consider.

Thanks.

 

[Jopsy Pendragon]

And, just like that, I stopped watching ABC.

ABC suspends Jimmy Kimmel's late-night show indefinitely over his remarks about Charlie Kirk’s death

ABC has suspended Jimmy Kimmel’s late-night show indefinitely following comments he made about Charlie Kirk’s killing.

apnews.com

I had no use for ABC other than watching Kimmel. So, Bye Felicia. Hello to the "New Dark Ages".

"Everyone expects the Maga Inquisition... their four chief weapons are, Suprise, Fear, Ruthless Inefficiency and Fanatical Devotion to the Trump"

 

[Argent Stonecutter]

I wish I could stop watching ABC but my favorite TV channel is already "off".

 

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The hobgoblins are up to their usual non-governing, owning the libs leadership.

Lauren Boebert, MTG Sign Letter Asking for Charlie Kirk Statue in Capitol Building

Charlie Kirk's supporters have been paying tribute to him since he was shot to death on Wednesday ... and, a few of his close friends in Congress are trying to immortalize him on Capitol Hill forever.

www.tmz.com

 

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Charlie Kirk, Redeemed: A Political Class Finds Its Lost Cause (archive.today)

Before he was killed last week, Charlie Kirk left a helpful compendium of words—ones that would greatly aid those who sought to understand his legacy and import. It is somewhat difficult to match these words with the manner in which Kirk is presently being memorialized in mainstream discourse. New York Times columnist Ezra Klein dubbed Kirk “one of the era’s most effective practitioners of persuasion” and a man who “was practicing politics in exactly the right way.” California governor Gavin Newsom hailed Kirk’s “passion and commitment to debate,” advising us to continue Kirk’s work by engaging “with each other, across ideology, through spirited discourse.” Atlantic writer Sally Jenkins saluted Kirk, claiming he “argued with civility” and asserting that his death was “a significant loss for those who believe engagement can help bridge disagreements.”

The mentions of “debate” and “engagement” are references to Kirk’s campus tours, during which he visited various colleges to take on whoever come may. That this aspect of Kirk’s work would be so attractive to writers and politicians is understandable. There is, after all, a pervasive worry, among the political class, that college students, ensconced in their own bubbles, could use a bit of shock therapy from a man unconcerned with preferred pronouns, trigger warnings, and the humanity of Palestinians. But it also shows how the political class’s obsession with universities blinds it to everything else. And the everything-else of Kirk’s politics amounted to little more than a loathing of those whose mere existence provoked his ire.

What are we to make of a man who called for the execution of the American president, and then was executed himself? What are we to make of an NFL that, on one hand, encourages us to “End Racism,” and, on the other, urges us to commemorate an unreconstructed white supremacist? And what of the writers, the thinkers, and the pundits who cannot separate the great crime of Kirk’s death from the malignancy of his public life? Can they truly be so ignorant to the words of a man they have so rushed to memorialize? I don’t know. But the most telling detail in Klein’s column was that, for all his praise, there was not a single word in the piece from Kirk himself.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

Thanks. I understand his reservations about the transcripts but if they're not genuine, that's bound to come out at the trial.

If the prosecution seek to rely on them, then the defence get to commission their own forensic analysis and to cross examine the investigators about their provenance, and if the prosecution don't put them in, then the defence will ask what's happened to them.

 

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[Jopsy Pendragon]

Thanks. I understand his reservations about the transcripts but if they're not genuine, that's bound to come out at the trial.

If the prosecution seek to rely on them, then the defence get to commission their own forensic analysis and to cross examine the investigators about their provenance, and if the prosecution don't put them in, then the defence will ask what's happened to them.

Doubtful. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if Tyr-anus-sore-ass Rump has him put onto the next plane to El Salvador, and uses it as a populist/wedge issue to begin deporting actual citizens en masse.

It's not like Patel can say no, or congress will lift a finger to stop him.

 

[Willow Matthews]

I'm not sure if you guys can see this on youtube? I'd be interested on your take if you can watch it.
Planet America has been around for years on the ABC here.
Give it a crack and let me know.

Latest episode: How influential was MAGA activist Charlie Kirk? | Planet America

 

[Katheryne Helendale]

Katheryne Helendale (@kat_helendale) on Threads

If Charlie Kirk was a fourth grader, there would have been a day of thoughts and prayers, and then America would have moved on. Prove me wrong.

www.threads.com

 

[Casey Pelous]

Katheryne Helendale (@kat_helendale) on Threads

If Charlie Kirk was a fourth grader, there would have been a day of thoughts and prayers, and then America would have moved on. Prove me wrong.

www.threads.com

You're playing a bit fast and loose with how long those thoughts and prayers would last.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

 

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[Soen Eber]

 

[Jopsy Pendragon]

Apparently some Office Depot employee got fired for refusing to print memorial flyers, calling them 'propaganda'. And that political hack Pam Bondi threatened to press charges against the now terminated employee, because "Businesses aren't allowed to discriminate". -- Bondi to prosecute Office Depot worker who refused to print Charlie Kirk flyers

... oh Pam. The supreme court just got done saying businesses CAN discriminate. You're the AG, you should know better.

 

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I can't listen to a 15 minute sermon from a Franciscan Friar. That is not happening. So I skipped to his "we defeat our enemy by making them our friends" steps. Which are, eh. Sure, courage, Sure, speak the truth. But I...have a problem with his #2. A REALLY BIG problem. We need to be a people of prayer? We need to be more like Jesus?

Keep it in church, father.

 

[Veritable Quandry]

When somebody says "What would Jesus do?" remember that flipping over tables and driving the moneylenders out of the temple is an option.

 

[Jopsy Pendragon]

There were a few good points, but he’s looking through rose-colored glasses. In his fable, the wolf can be reasoned with. The wolf we’re facing now cannot. It lies constantly, twists every truth, and has an endless appetite no amount of placating will ever satisfy. Those who try only set others up to be devoured ahead of them.


Yes, there is empathy on the right — but it’s suffocated by opportunists ready to pounce on any hint of disloyalty. People who dare to stand on principle risk being shunned, blacklisted, excluded from wealth, fired, or worse. Fear silences the best voices, and so the loudest, most intolerant ones dominate.


The left doesn’t hate the right. The left hates the hatred the right has built its power on — punishing difference, enforcing conformity, turning “us vs. them” into a permanent weapon. All the left ever wanted was simple: stop punishing people for being who they are. That modest demand was twisted into “tyranny” and met with war.


This wolf can’t be reasoned with or placated. It thrives on power and corruption. The only real safeguard is breaking power into smaller pieces so no one faction can dominate. For a while, checks and balances held. But the wolf learned how to game the system. I don’t see a way forward until its destruction brings about the rise of a rival wolf strong enough to challenge it.


Anyway — thanks for sharing the video. Even if it triggered me a bit.

(disclaimer, my original reply was waaaay too long and messy, I did use chatgpt to whack it down to a more reasonable size without losing any of the points I was trying to make).