Charlie Kirk Shot and Killed In Utah

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Wow, at least AoC has enough decency left in her body to criticize in a recent tweet quotes like below about Kirk's death:

He was killed on camera. No ones family deserves to have to witness that. It's unthinkably cruel that people then would go on the internet and use their platform to say about an innocent man that "I don't care that he's dead." "He's not a hero." "He's a scumbag." "He should not be celebrated."

Plot twist: the quotes are all by Kirk, this is what he told back then about the death of George Floyd. Of course AoC didn't tweet such a thing.
 

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He's right.

The Onion has always been recognized as a first-rate satirical publication, making fun of all that is absurd in our socio-political world. However, in today's contemporary political environment, our brand has simply gotten muddled. And I can say with clarity that today's GOP is fully to blame.
 

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This isn't a both sides thing. This is a militant authoritarian siege that will not rest until it has eradicated black history, latino culture, women's reproductive freedom, LGBTQ+ visibility/equality and education/healthcare for the masses.

The civil rights movement and sexual revolution knocked them down a few pegs, but they're back, motivated, armed, funded and determined to rip the reigns of power out of everyone else's hands. This is the "Rich White Dad Utopia" movement, where they and only they have any power at all, and everyone else has to either obey or stay off the radar lest they be 'vanished' by blacklisting, deportation, incarceration, 'lone mad right-wing gunman' or worse.


You can't have discourse with someone who's convinced that they don't even need to win an argument with you, because you, as a person... 'don't count' and aren't taken seriously by anyone who does.

the left never stood a chance, they only temporarily gained a little ground in their effort to get people to just be a little more respectful to people who're different... and that was escalated into some sort of 'totalitarian authoritarian hostile life-threatening menace'. If it weren't that, the right would have found some other issue to start banging their war drums over.
 

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This isn't a both sides thing.
Bloody A.

NPR just had Joe bloody Manchin on and he trotted out that "both sides" thing and I had to turn the radio off.

"Oh my daughter was in tears after I voted for Kavanaugh and all I could think of was I had failed to explain myself properly."

Yes, he literally said that.
 

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This isn't a both sides thing. This is a militant authoritarian siege that will not rest until it has eradicated black history, latino culture, women's reproductive freedom, LGBTQ+ visibility/equality and education/healthcare for the masses.

The civil rights movement and sexual revolution knocked them down a few pegs, but they're back, motivated, armed, funded and determined to rip the reigns of power out of everyone else's hands. This is the "Rich White Dad Utopia" movement, where they and only they have any power at all, and everyone else has to either obey or stay off the radar lest they be 'vanished' by blacklisting, deportation, incarceration, 'lone mad right-wing gunman' or worse.


You can't have discourse with someone who's convinced that they don't even need to win an argument with you, because you, as a person... 'don't count' and aren't taken seriously by anyone who does.

the left never stood a chance, they only temporarily gained a little ground in their effort to get people to just be a little more respectful to people who're different... and that was escalated into some sort of 'totalitarian authoritarian hostile life-threatening menace'. If it weren't that, the right would have found some other issue to start banging their war drums over.
Yes.

I have been seeing a fair amoint of "Well if we cpuld all just get along" going around for "EnLiGhTeNeD CeNtRiSt" types lately.

Like yes, exactly. You have one "side" just wanting to exist, and one "side" trying to erase giant swaths of people from society through criminalizing or just flat out murder (see thatvdude's comment on homeless people).

This isn't a side thing. Its totalitarian assholes, and everyone else. But somehow, there are people who bury their head and can't see the difference.

Which is another thing these assholes have done, is create more of these useful idiot.centrist types. More and more I see people who are like "I deleted social media and now I am less stressed and everything is better!"

Its not fucking better, you are just ignoring the FUCKING PROBLEMS because acknowledging they exist is a hard truth you can't accept. You are ignoring that your parent or coworker is colossal racist asshole (etc etc etc) because you don't want to tell them they are a fucking asshole and their views are shittt, they might stop bringing cookies for you on Fridays (or whatever banal shit they are doing).

Or worse, you "agree" on like, one issue, but you prop up everything else these assholes are doing because you've bought the lie they are puahing re: (single issue) you care about.

(You in the general sense or whatever)
 

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"Oh my daughter was in tears after I voted for Kavanaugh and all I could think of was I had failed to explain myself properly."
He'll consider anything other than the fact he could just be wrong.... sounds familiar.

Its not fucking better, you are just ignoring the FUCKING PROBLEMS because acknowledging they exist is a hard truth you can't accept.
The reality of what's going on is terrible enough, so it's VERY TEMPTING to believe it's all a media creation that can just be ignored safely. ....and if you're straight white man with all straight white friends, you might get away with that delusion for a bit longer.

But yes, I see a lot of centrist types mistaking their apathy and willful ignorance for calm, rational thought.
 

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Whatever other crimes you want to lay at his door, Lyndon B. Johnson didn’t use the excuse of the assassination of John F. Kennedy to declare martial law in 1963.

Likewise, I am old enough to have gone on mass demonstrations to oppose Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher.

But when a deranged man tried to assassinate Ronald Reagan in 1981 or the IRA tried to blow up Thatcher in 1984 neither used it as a pretext to intimidate their political opponents. It never occurred to them that they could or should. More to the point, not even their critics thought that they would sink that low either.

Whatever else they were, they were not like Hitler, Stalin, Putin – or, it appears, Trump.
 

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"Oh my daughter was in tears after I voted for Kavanaugh and all I could think of was I had failed to explain myself properly."
"Oh honey, I wish I had the words to explain why I believe girls like you are humorless overly-entitled hysterical liars who just need to 'Smile More', then you'd understand why I supported a crass manchild frat bro to the highest court in the land. Maybe you're just too dumb to understand, that's okay, as long as I protect you like my own property until I transfer custody over to some vetted conservative husband qualified to hold your reins, you shouldn't worry your pretty little head over it."

yeah, he explained himself properly enough for her to read through the lines accurately.
 

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I look forward to the pigeon shit that will build up on that table. And Kirk's palm.
How appropriate. The empty chairs represent the increasingly erased women, BIPOC and LGBTQ+ Americans that his kind of 'Freedom to Oppress' has silenced and marginalized.
 

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Conservatives now want to cancel game studio Bethesda after they released a trailer on social media for an upcoming DLC to their game Indiana Jones and the Great Circle.

Indiana Jones's defining characteristic is that he punches lots and lots of Nazis and you get to do that in the game of course, but before you get to the Nazi-punching, the first "level" of the game puts you in Rome where you have to tussle with Mussolini's capital-F Fascists, and at various points throughout the level Jones makes a few snarky and unkind off-the-cuff remarks about Fascists.

In the DLC that's being released, you're apparently back in Rome, and there is one scene featured in the trailer where Indiana Jones says to a cat that he's petting, "You don't care much about these Fascists, do you?"

The trailer does not mention Charlie Kirk, and nobody at Bethesda Studios has ever made a remark about Charlie Kirk; nevertheless, conservatives feel that Jones's quip about Fascists can only be a reference attacking Charlie Kirk, and they are demanding that Bethesda publicly apologize for posting it and possibly fire some employees.
 

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I look forward to the pigeon shit that will build up on that table. And Kirk's palm.
Oh god the AI image of Kirk.eith Jesus and Kennedy and Lincoln and MLK in the replies. I can't fucking even with these people.

Funny enough, earlier I was wondering how long until they started comparimg him to MLK for "fighting for civil rights".
 

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