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Trump supporters left empty-handed after he promised 'food for everyone' at Miami's Versailles: report

According to a report from Laine Doss of the Miami New Times, aides and supporters of Donald Trump walked away hungry after his visit to the popular Versailles Café in Miami's Little Havana following his arraignment on conspiracy and Espionage Act charges on Tuesday.The former president made a...

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According to a report from Laine Doss of the Miami New Times, aides and supporters of Donald Trumpwalked away hungry after his visit to the popular Versailles Café in Miami's Little Havana following his arraignment on conspiracy and Espionage Act charges on Tuesday.

The former president made a highly-publicized stop at the cafe after pleading not guilty before a Florida magistrate where he was serenaded by fans with "Happy Birthday" the day before his birthday and he proclaimed "food for everyone" to the cheering crowd.

As Doss of the Miami New Times is reporting, not so much as a crumb was served up on the former president's dime.

 

[Argent Stonecutter]

The miracle of no loaves and zero fishes.

 

[Katheryne Helendale]

Trump supporters left empty-handed after he promised 'food for everyone' at Miami's Versailles: report

According to a report from Laine Doss of the Miami New Times, aides and supporters of Donald Trump walked away hungry after his visit to the popular Versailles Café in Miami's Little Havana following his arraignment on conspiracy and Espionage Act charges on Tuesday.The former president made a...

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Second verse, same as the first.

 

[Cristiano]

 

[Noodles]

Death penalty for the Espionage Act only applies in wartime -- the Rosenbergs sold atomic secrets to the USSR during WWII.

Let's face it -- TFG is 77. He's not in what you'd call splendid shape. Chances of him living long enough to see the lethal injection chamber in Terre Haute approach zero anyway.

Wait, hasn't the US legally been "at war" for like 40 years or something now?

 

[Lexxi]

Wait, hasn't the US legally been "at war" for like 40 years or something now?

Well, technically, the fighting in the Korean War lasted from June 1950 to July 1953. "The fighting ended with an armistice on 27 July 1953." So, a "temporary" stop to a war that has been about 80 billion (or 24 times, math is hard) times longer than the actual fighting.

Or, as Wikipedia puts it, the war is currently ongoing and is in it's 72nd year, rapidly closing in on year 73:

Date	25 June 1950 – 27 July 1953 (de facto) (3 years, 1 month and 2 days) 25 June 1950 – present (de jure) (72 years, 11 months, 2 weeks and 6 days)

 

[Casey Pelous]

Wait, hasn't the US legally been "at war" for like 40 years or something now?

The way I understand it, we were always at war with Eurasia.

 

[Veritable Quandry]

The way I understand it, we were always at war with Eurasia.

We have always been at war with Eastasia.

 

[Noodles]

Well, technically, the fighting in the Korean War lasted from June 1950 to July 1953. "The fighting ended with an armistice on 27 July 1953." So, a "temporary" stop to a war that has been about 80 billion (or 24 times, math is hard) times longer than the actual fighting.

Or, as Wikipedia puts it, the war is currently ongoing and is in it's 72nd year, rapidly closing in on year 73:

Even better for Trump's case, since we have video of him saluting Koreans generals and such. Clearly he is a treasonous plant, during a time of war, saluting an enemy general.

 

[Cindy Claveau]

I had never heard of the "Clinton Socks" case. But when you're the out-of-power party, it's understandable that you would sieze on any straw in the wind to save yourself. Figures the heart of this made-up issue is an incompetent amateur. Not even an attorney.

Trump And His Minions Continue To Lie About The 'Clinton Socks Case'

As CNN reported back in August:

[Tom] Fitton, the longtime head of the legal activist group Judicial Watch, had a simple message for Trump — it was a mistake to give the records to the Archives, and his team should never have let the Archives “strong-arm” him into returning them, according to three sources familiar with the matter.
Those records belonged to Trump, Fitton argued, citing a 2012 court case involving his organization that he said gave the former President authority to do what he wanted with records from his own term in office.
The Judicial Watch president suggested to Trump that if the Archives came back, he should not give up any additional records, according to sources with knowledge of their conversations, which have not been previously reported.

The “2012 court case” involved 79 cassette tapes made by historian Taylor Branch of then-President Bill Clinton, which were supposedly stored in his sock drawer — hence the “SOCKS CASE.” Judicial Watch sued the National Archives in 2010, a full nine years after Clinton left office, demanding that the agency declare the tapes a presidential record and go seize them from Branch. Or Clinton. Or Simon & Schuster. Or whoever then had custody of tapes.

 

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Figures the heart of this made-up issue is an incompetent amateur. Not even an attorney.

No, just a yes-man who fulfills Trump's desires. The only qualification needed.

 

[Cindy Claveau]

No, just a yes-man who fulfills Trump's desires. The only qualification needed.

And socks. You gotta have socks.

 

[Soen Eber]

Socks?

 

[Casey Pelous]

I had never heard of the "Clinton Socks" case. But when you're the out-of-power party, it's understandable that you would sieze on any straw in the wind to save yourself. Figures the heart of this made-up issue is an incompetent amateur. Not even an attorney.

Trump And His Minions Continue To Lie About The 'Clinton Socks Case'

The key part of that story: The RWNJ's LOST that case.

US District Judge Amy Berman Jackson dismissed the case because “the relief that plaintiff seeks – that the Archivist assume ‘custody and control’ of the audiotapes – is not available under the PRA.”
Judge Jackson made clear that she was not deciding “whether the former President’s retention of the audiotapes as personal is a matter that is subject to judicial review.”
In fact, her order referenced a DC Circuit opinion from 1993, in which the court specified, “We did not hold in [our prior cases] that the President could designate any material he wishes as presidential records, and thereby exercise ‘virtually complete control’ over it, notwithstanding the fact that the material does not meet the definition of ‘presidential records’ in the PRA.”

IANAL but I'm thinkin' a case that gets dismissed does not set precedent.

 

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IANAL but I'm thinkin' a case that gets dismissed does not set precedent.

The point is Fitton seems to believe that because his case was dismissed, it means any records held by a President are his (or hers!) to do with as they please. Which means he's ignoring the point Judge Jackson makes, and only proves how perfect he is for a Trump advisor.

 

[Cindy Claveau]

The point is Fitton seems to believe that because his case was dismissed, it means any records held by a President are his (or hers!) to do with as they please. Which means he's ignoring the point Judge Jackson makes, and only proves how perfect he is for a Trump advisor.

"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake " - Napoleon supposedly

 

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A member of the Bush Jr. Republican guard is calling out Trump's "childish impulse" being to blame for his current crisis.

Karl Rove in Journal op-ed: Trump ‘will pay a high price’ in Mar-a-Lago case

Former George W. Bush aide Karl Rove warned in a new op-ed that former President Trump’s federal indictment over his mishandling of classified documents will come at a steep cost to himself and the…

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[Zaida Gearbox]

Death penalty for the Espionage Act only applies in wartime -- the Rosenbergs sold atomic secrets to the USSR during WWII.

Let's face it -- TFG is 77. He's not in what you'd call splendid shape. Chances of him living long enough to see the lethal injection chamber in Terre Haute approach zero anyway.

We're we are war when the Rosenbergs werentried/executed?

 

[WolfEyes]

We're we are war when the Rosenbergs werentried/executed?

The trial was held after WWII ended. They weren't even arrested until 1950, 5 years after the war ended.

The crimes were committed during the war but the trial was not held until 1951.

On July 17, 1950, Julius Rosenberg was arrested on suspicion of espionage[20] based on David Greenglass's confession. On August 11, 1950, Ethel Rosenberg was arrested after testifying before a grand jury (see section, below).[19]

The trial of the Rosenbergs and Sobell on federal espionage charges began on March 6, 1951, in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_and_Ethel_Rosenberg

 

[detrius]

I had never heard of the "Clinton Socks" case. But when you're the out-of-power party, it's understandable that you would sieze on any straw in the wind to save yourself. Figures the heart of this made-up issue is an incompetent amateur. Not even an attorney.

Trump And His Minions Continue To Lie About The 'Clinton Socks Case'

Q-Anon, MAGA and sovereign citizens are three sides of the same coin, held together by "magical thinking".