Queen Elizabeth II 1926 - 2022

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Is this the right place to mention this? Because I haven't been actually following the coverage all that closely - just enough to get the general story of what all is going on - but even in what I've seen I've noticed this.

Nice reminder to never ever form an opinion after the use of one news source only.
 
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With Brexit, we shouldn't forget the effect of years of lies and misinformation about the EU from the right-wing press.

Even if you don't read the Mail, the Express and the Sun, for the last 30-odd years you've not been able to enter a newsagent's, a corner shop or a supermarket without seeing a load of anti-EU headlines several times a month, at least, and that kind of constant drip-drip-drip of propaganda must have an effect.

Similarly, in the interests of political balance, the BBC used to invite UKIP MEPs onto political panel shows far more frequently than MEPs from other parties, which meant that we never got a balanced picture of the work of the European Parliament.

And the referendum campaign itself was just dreadful -- Leave came out with lie after lie after lie about the benefits of leaving the EU.

Furthermore, the Leave vote in many areas wasn't a vote for nostalgia or the past. Rather, it was a vote for change, against the ruling economic consensus, which really wasn't doing anything for those areas that used to be the old industrial Labour heartlands.

"Leave" offered the possibility of change, and since Labour under Jeremy Corbyn were lukewarm, at best, about the benefits of remaining in the EU, the case for the EU was being made by people like Cameron and George Osborne, the architects of austerity.

Anyway, that's done, now, and we have to live with the outcome.

This article is quite interesting on why people get involved in communal rituals of mourning -- it's apparently more complicated than at first it seems.

 

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This article is quite interesting on why people get involved in communal rituals of mourning -- it's apparently more complicated than at first it seems.

Loved this (also the video you posted earlier with the man doing the vox pop).

Short read but explains well how varied the views of people are during, yes, the Queen’s passing, but it also could be applied to all national happenings/tragedies. It often seems like we are bunched into camps of for or against, true patriot or traitor.

It happens even on what seems like trivial matters on social media. Drives me nuts. I guess it isn’t always easy to have nuanced conversations with more than a few people at the same time.
 
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Sid

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"The most important event the world will ever see."
I guess he is invited to the ceremony in Westminster Abbey or even Windsor Castle.

And people with such mindset and understanding of the world are allowed to influence politics as Speaker of the House of Commons.

Personally I thought it was the misfortune of His Majesty the King with writing with a fountain pen.
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Evernote link


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Fingers crossed that it all goes reasonably smoothly.
 

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Nah, don't spoil the British traditions. They love their queueueues.
I forget where, but I recently saw someone opine that 'queue' was their favorite word, because it has 4 silent letters. :D
 
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