Coup in the USA?

[danielravennest]

In the U.S. and especially in the Midwest, the term is "godless socialist." They consider socialism to be intrinsically welded to atheism and a repudiation of god. Seriously.

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If anyone runs into one of those people, point them at Christian Socialism and watch their minds get blown.

 

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

If anyone runs into one of those people, point them at Christian Socialism and watch their minds get blown.

DIE, HERETIC

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[Free]

 

[CronoCloud Creeggan]

In case this has already been posted:

QAnon congresswoman faces calls for arrest after live-tweeting Nancy Pelosi's location to rioters

Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-CO), a gun-toting supporter of the QAnon movement, is facing backlash after she was accused of live-tweeting House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's (D-CA) location during the attack on Capitol Hill last week.Boebert shared the tweet soon after President Donald Trump's supporters...

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I have you all on ignore.

All of you.

Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha.

My nickname for her is "Congresswoman Gretchen Wieners" since she reminds me of actress Lacey Chabert, who is also a Republican.

 

[Pancake]

May I just say, on behalf of the entire planet, the fact that the US, last super power and holder of the majority of nuclear weapons was attacked at all, let alone provoked by government officials and supported by some members of the military and law enforcement, and there is still no official statement is fucking terrifying.

As much as I eye roll at American exceptionalism, a destabilized USA is a destabilized planet.

 

[Pancake]

My brother, who has worked and lived in the US for a number of years and married an American is now working on getting his young children their Canadian passports in the event they need to come here for a while. Between Covid and this unrest, I’m thankful he will have that option of proving their dual citizenship in his back pocket if needed.

 

[danielravennest]

You don't invade the legislature like that, you just don't. Protestors sometimes get in and do stupid stuff, but not mobs trying to storm the buildinng.

As someone with a long-abiding interest in castles, there's a simple mod to the Capitol they could do to make it more riot proof. Castle doors were thick and had bars you could drop across them. For a building like the Capitol they could be appropriately sheathed with engraved brass historical motifs, but strong on the inside. In normal times they would stay open and be just part of the building scenery, with the kind of glass and wood outer doors we saw getting bashed in used to keep the weather out. In emergencies the doorkeepers slam them shut, turn the handle to extend the floor and top pins to lock them in place, and drop the horizontal bar. The photos give an idea what I mean.

 

[danielravennest]

Any predictions on whether there will be an adequate police presence at the inauguration?

Yes, they will over-react and have a massive show of force. The Mayor of Washington D.C. asked and received an extension of the National Special Security Event for the inauguration. That brings in the Secret Service, FBI, and Homeland Security to oversee things. I expect the Capitol Police will be in riot gear this time, since the previous leaders were fired. They answer to the House and Senate, not the president, and the legislators are damn pissed.

 

[danielravennest]

Ok seriously though, has there been any official communications or statements about this insurrection?
I see individual interviews or articles from individual Senators or Governors, and some statements from Pelosi and Biden, but no press briefings from the White House? From the Senate? From the VP? I get that they might need to choose their words carefully but come on... they have to say something.

According to NBC News reporters who work the White House, pretty much the entire WH staff are either gone already (they were going to be gone the 20th anyway), not coming in to work, or just staying away from Trump. Donnie's been superbanned from social media, so he's completely isolated. He's not talked to Pence or McConnell since the insurrection. He thinks they're traitors to him, and they think he tried to get them killed. Pence has been laying low at the VP's residence, and has not made any move to invoke the 25th Amendment, although some cabinet members have discussed it among themselves. Three of them have resigned. The Senate as a whole is on recess to the 19th, so they have scattered.

 

[danielravennest]

Donald J. Trump Presidential Library

Presidential Library for the 45th and 47th President of the United States

djtrumplibrary.com

Satire, obviously, and well done, but I do wonder about how the real one will be handled.

Same way as the Library of Alexandria - burn it down.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

As someone with a long-abiding interest in castles, there's a simple mod to the Capitol they could do to make it more riot proof. Castle doors were thick and had bars you could drop across them. For a building like the Capitol they could be appropriately sheathed with engraved brass historical motifs, but strong on the inside. In normal times they would stay open and be just part of the building scenery, with the kind of glass and wood outer doors we saw getting bashed in used to keep the weather out. In emergencies the doorkeepers slam them shut, turn the handle to extend the floor and top pins to lock them in place, and drop the horizontal bar. The photos give an idea what I mean.

It's more than that, though -- in reality, the Metropolitan Police would never let that particular kind of situation develop, since they'd have cut off access the the whole area well before things started to get out of hand, but that the first sign of trouble, the large iron (?) gates to the Palace of Westminster would have been closed.

Then, inside the gates, the police guarding Parliament are armed with machine guns, as are the police guarding the doors to the parliament building itself (which would, of course, be locked too).

I've not been inside Parliament itself for a long time, so I don't know what it's like at the moment, but I'd assume that the police inside the building are similarly armed, or can be very quickly.

Individual terrorists have been able to get inside, or almost inside, the palace precinct, but a mob would never make it that close.

 

[danielravennest]

I see continuing efforts at invoking the 25th as a waste of precious time that would be better spent impeaching.

What I see is a strategy to keep Trump uncertain. He has a habit of being indecisive with major decisions. Right now hes facing the 25th Amendment *and* impeachment *and* customers dropping his properties like hotcakes *and* being charged criminally in D.C., Georgia, and New York. The entire FBI is investigating the terrorist plot leading up to the Capitol attack. So he knows whatever actions he took to make it happen will come to light. He's been cut off from social media, so he can't go on a tweet attack. He doesn't know when to flee or to where.

If we can keep him in this state until the 20th, he can't provoke more stuff. Parler has been shut down, but hackers backed up their *entire* database, and are providing information to law enforcement. So the "most likely to riot" folks are on watch lists now, even if not arrested.

 

[danielravennest]

Well....to his credit, he was only on board the Trump admin for like a week, lol

11 days. Now known as a measurement of time 11 days = 1 Scaramucci.

 

[danielravennest]

The visit to the Alamo has my hairs up. I'm guessing he just might try to bring up imagery and rhetoric of fighting to the death, being willing to die, lost cause and so on.

It's not "The Alamo", it's a town called Alamo on the Mexico border. He wants to highlight the border wall.

 

[Pancake]

It's not "The Alamo", it's a town called Alamo on the Mexico border. He wants to highlight the border wall.

Or is it another Four Seasons misunderstanding?

 

[Dakota Tebaldi]

Two Capitol officers suspended, over a dozen others under investigation

(CNN)Two US Capitol Police officers were suspended and up to 15 more are under investigation for their behavior during last week's assault on the Capitol, and federal agents will look at whether current and former law enforcement officers played a role in the riot.

One of the Capitol police officers took a selfie with someone who was part of the mob that overtook the Capitol and the other wore a "Make America Great Again" hat and started directing people around the building, according to Rep. Tim Ryan, an Ohio Democrat. He didn't disclose how many other officers were under investigation but confirmed it was between 10 and 15, and didn't say what they were being scrutinized for except that it was their behavior during the riot.

Ryan added that one individual had been arrested, but he did not know if that person was a police officer or part of the National Guard. He said more details on the arrest would come later.

The federal investigative interest is a priority and a part of the broader investigation into the mob at the Capitol, sources said. The investigation into insurrectionist ties to law enforcement is a priority because the skills that officers are trained to use during their duties could be useful to an extremist mob, authorities say. This includes clearing rooms, taking custody of people, securing areas and handling firearms.

Democratic members of the House have also raised questions about potential sympathies for the attackers among the ranks of US Capitol Police. That agency hasn't responded to CNN's request for comment.

 

[danielravennest]

Now you know why she has her panties up her butt.

I thought it was because Kamala Harris is on the cover of Vogue and she was wearing sneakers (oh the horror). This is not a parody, it's the real magazine cover.

 

[Beebo Brink]

I have no information on whether this was created by the right-wing, the left-wing as a prank or the FBI as a sting. But I'm betting most MAGA white terrorists won't question it before filling in the information.

 

[Soen Eber]

Since Carter issued a blanket pardon to all Vietnam War draft dodgers I am sure Trump can issue a likewise pardon. I only hope Pence gets wind of it and is vindictive enough to invoke Article 25 to make sure his would be killers get some measure of justice.

 

[danielravennest]

It's more than that, though -- in reality, the Metropolitan Police would never let that particular kind of situation develop, since they'd have cut off access the the whole area well before things started to get out of hand, but that the first sign of trouble, the large iron (?) gates to the Palace of Westminster would have been closed.

You guys have a lot more experience with internal attacks, starting with 1066 and up through the Troubles in Northern Ireland. Heck, you guys celebrate an attempt to blow up Parliament in 1605.