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After a mob of Trump supporters were done storming the Capitol at the President’s urging, there was a bone-chilling message left behind that was scrawled on a door: “Murder the Media.”

When the insurrectionists descended upon Capitol grounds in a violent takeover, the journalists who were covering the chaos suddenly found themselves under attack by enraged Trump followers who’ve been told for four years that the media was the “enemy of the people” and out to get their beloved leader.

In the aftermath of the riot, accounts from the reporters who were at the scene illustrated the direct impact of Trump spending his entire presidency whining about negative media coverage and painting himself as a victim of “fake news.”
 

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I have a very hard time believing that it was anything other than conspiratorial -deliberate.
A reporter on NBC who follows social media said there was plenty of online planning for the Jan 6th attack. There were T-shirts made, forum discussions of whether to harm the Capitol security, etc. It would have been easily found out if organizations like Homeland Security bothered to monitor the chatter. So it seems either the organizations have been so hollowed out they couldn't, or they were ordered to ignore it from above.

On a related note, one newspaper is calling Ted Cruz, Josh Hawley, and their fellow-travelers in the legislature the "Congressional Sedition Caucus".
 

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Does Trump still have the launch codes? That would certainly be "something else."
Pelosi talked with the Chief of the armed forces and announced today that they have procedures to prevent Trump from launching a unilateral nuclear strike. Pentagon lawyers will have to approve that such is not an illegal order, she said this morning.
 
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They're so tied into the fantasy world Trump has helped create for them, they're probably starting to believe that if they're the one performing the illegal act on camera, then THEY MUST BE ANTIFA.
 

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Pence is refusing to consider invoking the 25th Amendment. On to impeachment, I say. But, Pence is still the tie-breaker, yeah?
If you mean in the Senate, it is currently 51-48 for the Republicans. Perdue's term ended already. Loeffler's will end when Warnock & Ossoff take the oath of office. That will leave the Senate tied at 50-50 with Pence as the tie-breaker until Jan 20th. At that point Kamala Harris will replace Pence, and California Secretary of State Alex Padilla will replace Harris. It will still be 50-50 but with Harris as tie-breaker.

On invoking the 25th Amendment, Pence isn't a tie-breaker, it requires the Vice President plus a majority of the Cabinet. If he doesn't go for it, it doesn't matter how many on the Cabinet vote yes.
 

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I'll bet odds that he's former Air Force. if people want to know why i think that, feel free to ask and I'll explain.
OK, I'll ask. But my guess is the Air Force acadamy is in Boulder Springs, Colorado, which is a hot bed for both evengelicism and also for hard right ideology.
 
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OK, I'll ask. But my guess is the Air Force acadamy is in Boulder Springs, Colorado, which is a hot bed for both evengelicism and also for hard right ideology.
Yupyup. There have been issues within the Air Force for a while, iirc, including an officer not being allowed to re-enlist without taking an oath to serve god, or was it on god.... either way, it was illegal, but...
 

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I think you may well be right about Pence, too. In truth I don't think much of any "executive type decisions" are going to be made between now and the 19th, but I do think that if any will be made it's mostly Pence who will be making them.
One executive-level decision that *has* been made is telling all the political appointees to submit their resignation letters. This normally happens earlier in the transition, and allows the incoming administration to decide who to keep on and who to replace. In his usual "can't be fucked to do the job" approach, Trump hadn't until now. If he had never done it, Biden would have to remove appointees afterwards, delaying getting new people in place. I can imagine someone putting the order in front of Turnip and telling him to sign it now, or else.