UnitedHealthcare CEO Assassinated In NYC

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If you shoot a man in the street its murder.

If you deny health care to 100,000 people who die of cancer, its just good business.

“Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god. Thoughts of a Biologist” ― Jean Rostand
 
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“Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god. Thoughts of a Biologist” ― Jean Rostand
What if you kill 147 people due to food poisoning at a professional business event ? What does that make you?
 

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Fuck insurers, but fuck the hospitals too. I know too many people who've gone to an ER or something only to have the doctors dismiss them right away, and STILL bill them for hundreds or even thousands of dollars. Even if someone has no insurance, there is no justification for some of the bills.
 

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I've got to admit, I'm impressed by the clarity of the message here.

Three words. Short, precise, no room for interpretation.

This is essentially the diametrical opposite of the scatterbrained lunatic who posts a rambling manifesto on the internet before going on a shooting spree in an American classroom.
 
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Some UHC news from last year: according to a law suit they've been using an AI to approve health care since 2019, which has a failure rate of 90%.

Maybe UHC should be forced to just do the opposite of what the AI suggests, and - surprise - the failure rate would drop to 10% over night! Or even better - use qualified humans again for the task.

 
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Fuck insurers, but fuck the hospitals too. I know too many people who've gone to an ER or something only to have the doctors dismiss them right away, and STILL bill them for hundreds or even thousands of dollars. Even if someone has no insurance, there is no justification for some of the bills.
The billing is a problem, but I do find it annoying that some people treat the ER like a Doctor. The primary job of the ER is stabilizing an emergency until your regular Doctor can fix the problem, later.

Its also part of why Urgent Care facilities have become more common. Because they are sort of an in between to serve the purpose many go to the ER for (non life threatening harm).
 

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The billing is a problem, but I do find it annoying that some people treat the ER like a Doctor. The primary job of the ER is stabilizing an emergency until your regular Doctor can fix the problem, later.

Its also part of why Urgent Care facilities have become more common. Because they are sort of an in between to serve the purpose many go to the ER for (non life threatening harm).
Of course, but I know people who NEEDED to be in the ER and were still brushed off. 2 different women I know had kidney stones and had to beg them for an x-ray to prove it since the lazy staff just wanted to send them home.
 
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I guess I'm lucky since I have United Health Care and they have treated me very well.
 

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The billing is a problem, but I do find it annoying that some people treat the ER like a Doctor. The primary job of the ER is stabilizing an emergency until your regular Doctor can fix the problem, later.

Its also part of why Urgent Care facilities have become more common. Because they are sort of an in between to serve the purpose many go to the ER for (non life threatening harm).
People with no insurance and no paid time off usually wait until they are seriously ill and have nowhere else to go.
 

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From another story on that page:

Those who knew Brian Thompson struggled to make sense of what authorities described as a targeted attack on him in New York City.
Uhhh .... those who knew him must be a little dense; I don't find myself puzzled at all. Like Detrius, I think the shooter explained himself quite clearly and succinctly. I don't support what he did, but I think he made it quite clear why he did it.

It seems clear, too, that he was not a suicide terrorist. This guy had a clean, smart getaway plan and seems to have executed it. I won't be surprised if he has nothing more to say on the topic, nor will I be surprised if he stays at large for a long time.

It somehow brings to mind a chilling Leonard Cohen song, First We Take Manhattan. It hints that the narrator is a terrorist.

They sentenced me to 20 years of boredom
For trying to change the system from within
I'm coming now, I'm coming to reward them
First we take Manhattan, then we take Berlin​
I'm guided by a signal in the heavens
I'm guided by this birthmark on my skin
I'm guided by the beauty of our weapons
First we take Manhattan, then we take Berlin ...​
I don't like your fashion business, mister​
And I don't like these drugs that keep you thin​
I don't like what happened to my sister​
First we take Manhattan, then we take Berlin​


Leonard said, "I think it means exactly what it says. It is a terrorist song. I think it's a response to terrorism. There's something about terrorism that I've always admired. The fact that there are no alibis or no compromises. That position is always very attractive. I don't like it when it's manifested on the physical plane – I don't really enjoy the terrorist activities – but Psychic Terrorism.'"
 
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From another story on that page:



Uhhh .... those who knew him must be a little dense; I don't find myself puzzled at all. Like Detrius, I think the shooter explained himself quite clearly and succinctly. I don't support what he did, but I think he made it quite clear why he did it.
You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.
 

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From another story on that page:



Uhhh .... those who knew him must be a little dense; I don't find myself puzzled at all. Like Detrius, I think the shooter explained himself quite clearly and succinctly. I don't support what he did, but I think he made it quite clear why he did it.

It seems clear, too, that he was not a suicide terrorist. This guy had a clean, smart getaway plan and seems to have executed it. I won't be surprised if he has nothing more to say on the topic, nor will I be surprised if he stays at large for a long time.

It somehow brings to mind a chilling Leonard Cohen song, First We Take Manhattan. It hints that the narrator is a terrorist.

They sentenced me to 20 years of boredom​
For trying to change the system from within​
I'm coming now, I'm coming to reward them​
First we take Manhattan, then we take Berlin​
I'm guided by a signal in the heavens​
I'm guided by this birthmark on my skin​
I'm guided by the beauty of our weapons​
First we take Manhattan, then we take Berlin ...​
I don't like your fashion business, mister​
And I don't like these drugs that keep you thin​
I don't like what happened to my sister​
First we take Manhattan, then we take Berlin​


Leonard said, "I think it means exactly what it says. It is a terrorist song. I think it's a response to terrorism. There's something about terrorism that I've always admired. The fact that there are no alibis or no compromises. That position is always very attractive. I don't like it when it's manifested on the physical plane – I don't really enjoy the terrorist activities – but Psychic Terrorism.'"
That's all very well, but what do you think this assassination will achieve in the long run? It puts United Healthcare to the inconvenience of having to find a new CEO, but they will doubtless achieve that without too much difficulty and then carry on maximising their profits as they were doing before Mr Thompson's death.
 

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That's all very well, but what do you think this assassination will achieve in the long run? It puts United Healthcare to the inconvenience of having to find a new CEO, but they will doubtless achieve that without too much difficulty and then carry on maximising their profits as they were doing before Mr Thompson's death.
That's a question that only the shooter can answer, right? Cause none of us have shot a CEO, so we obviously already believe that it isn't that effective a deterrent for insurance abuses.

Not all actions, however, are intended to accomplish something. Sometimes they're just an expression of emotion, and that part of the equation seems pretty likely to be revenge for some insurance claim denial.

Or maybe it's the pool boy having an affair with his wife.