Trump Clearly Near Death

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2) It would be the ultimate power move on the world stage for Putin to kill an American president, especially now that relations are tightening with Russia, China and India.
Now this I can see.
 
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A couple of reasons come to mind. I am not saying this happened, but it is driven by the fact that his health has rapidly deteriorated since Alaska.

1) Trump has been at least making a show of trying to stop Russia from continuing to invade Ukraine. Putin wants Ukraine, period. He is not interested in peace.
2) It would be the ultimate power move on the world stage for Putin to kill an American president, especially now that relations are tightening with Russia, China and India.
3) For sport. Putin is notorious for taking out his enemies. While Trump doesn't qualify per se, maybe he is just done with finding him useful for anything.
Well yes, Putin (if it was the real one in Alaska) for sure had the chance to do so in Alaska. But it would also show that the Secret Service really deteriorated in terms of safety procedures.

But alone that Trump took Putin into the beast must have been a constant nightmare for the secret service for weeks. It gave Putin more than enough opportunity to compromise that car and wiretap it or whatever.

We also do know that the Russians have a knack for killing their victims with unusual poisons, like Alexander Litvinenko in 2006 with Polonium-210 or the Skripals assassination attempt with Novichok in 2018.

So it might be that Putin will gain a lot by killing Trump. But since he's also a strategist the other question is which risks does killing the active POTUS involve, and to the gains outweigh the risks?

I am pretty sure that if Trump would be the victim of a Russian assassination that the US intelligency community would know soon enough. And that a response to this act will not take for too long, which could include returning that favor to Russia.

In other words the risks are more dangerous than the gains here IMHO. Killing Trump as Russia would be a real bad idea. This is why I don't believe in that theory, the Russians are not that dumb.

Also Putin got in Alaska exactly what he wanted to get: America put Russia on equal footing by inviting him on American soil. These were really great pictures for Russian propaganda, because a) it added to the Russian narrative that the Ukraine war is in reality a proxy war of America with Russia, where Ukraine has nothing to say and b) that Russia still is a global power rivaling Americas.
 
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A couple of reasons come to mind. I am not saying this happened, but it is driven by the fact that his health has rapidly deteriorated since Alaska.

1) Trump has been at least making a show of trying to stop Russia from continuing to invade Ukraine. Putin wants Ukraine, period. He is not interested in peace.
2) It would be the ultimate power move on the world stage for Putin to kill an American president, especially now that relations are tightening with Russia, China and India.
3) For sport. Putin is notorious for taking out his enemies. While Trump doesn't qualify per se, maybe he is just done with finding him useful for anything.
The point about coincidences is that they happen coincidentally. To my mind, it's not particularly surprising that the health of a 79-year-old man in Trump's physical condition should suddenly start to deteriorate, and it doesn't require much more explanation. Take it much further than that and you'll soon find yourself in Q-Anon territory.

As a general point, when Putin has someone killed he does it in a way that means everyone knows he's responsible but can't actually prove it (plane crashes, people jump or fall out of windows, the Salisbury poisonings).

While JD Vance may well be even less supportive of Ukraine than is Trump, I cannot imagine any circumstances in which Putin would benefit from a Vance presidency that was widely believed to be the result of Putin's murdering his predecessor.
 

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Trump not been seen in public in nearly a week. This morning, pictures were released (after days of old pictures being passed off as current). No video, no public speaking.

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There has been speculation that he suffered a major medical incident, possibly a stroke. The pictures today escalated that speculation:


Potential explanation:
Is it time to bring out the lettuce?

 

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(Off topic: is that the right spelling? I'm vibed out because that's also the name of the 4chan guy. It's terrifying me how much of my vocabulary has turned into swiss cheese over the past year)
For "moot point"? Yes.
 
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Hmm.

White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt told Newsweek: "The President will be making an exciting announcement related to the Department of Defense.
Despite Trump addressing rumors about his health on Sunday night, some continued to question the nature of the announcement, with some suggesting it could be related to a possible resignation.

"NEVER FELT BETTER IN MY LIFE," Trump wrote on his social media platform Truth Social, in response to a post from a MAGA influencer who claimed the "media freaks out" if he disappears for 24 hours.

Donald Trump To Make Televised Announcement at White House: What to Know | Newsweek

2 pm ET.
 

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They would be well advised to bury him in a secret location.
He deserves to be given the Osama Bin Laden 'dumped at sea in something that stays sunk' treatment. Deporting his corpse would only be too fitting.

As for who gets what out of him shuffling off this mortal coil before ending his term... I can easily see the heritage foundation playing up the sympathy/loyalism/solidarity 'grazed on the ear part two' just to galvanize their base a little more and keep them from focusing on how badly they've been and will continue to be screwed by the GOP's cabinet of sledge hammers, chain saws and dumb rocks.
 

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I was afraid of that, too. But the more I've seen of the protests around the country, the more I think there will be celebrations rather than maudlin mourning over the dessicated remains.

They would be well advised to bury him in a secret location.
Doesn't need to be secret, it just needs to flush.
 

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