The Trump Presidency, Season 2

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Apple finally decided that they want to live very deep inside of Trump's ass. So they sent their top delivery boy Tim Cook into the White House and gifted to Trump a tacky chunk of glass and gold made in USA.

Or is this in reality a genius move when Trump puts this on display to be always visible in the Oval Office? You decide!

 
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Yeah nah, that sounds like "Mueller Time" style fanfic to me. I could see Trump wanting to sue, and I could see his lawyers advising him not to do that, but I can't see them specifically using the Epstein files as a threat like that, and even if they did I couldn't see it shutting him up because Trump still seems pretty confident right now that he can "post through it".

Could be 100% wrong about this, but I don't think Trump is panicking the way a lot of people would like him to be over Epstein. I think to him it's something that he has to deal with so that it doesn't screw up the midterms and make the second half of his term a pain, but after the midterms he's not going to care. It's his final term and let's face it, he is in ZERO legal or political jeopardy over whatever is in the Epstein files no matter how bad it is. I think the people around him are far more concerned about it, because they're the ones who have careers and ambitions after Trump that could be damaged by association.
 

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So Trump wants the U.S. to conduct a new census. Which I guess we should consider to be the first Trump Census to be run alongside the typical, regular census the U.S. Constitution mandates be taken every 10 years, and is likely to continue doing so until Trump had destroyed all governance upon which that document is based.

Perhaps he'd be happier if he could rejigger the real census from when someone explained to him what the census does back during his first term, when he tried to fuck with the census numbers. He's demanding his census to use "results and information gained from the Presidential Election of 2024." Which mathematically, politically and logically isn't a thing a census should be made to do. Also, his census will not be including anyone who is "in our Country illegally," which was his first beef with the census, and pretty much invalidates many of the reasons for taking a census.

Trump calls for a new census to exclude undocumented immigrants
 

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Not breaking news or anything but I just found out that at some point over the last few years Naomi Wolf went full MAGA and man is that a bitter pill.
 

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Not breaking news or anything but I just found out that at some point over the last few years Naomi Wolf went full MAGA and man is that a bitter pill.
The last few? Dude, she's been a hot mess for some time.

The New Republic had a write-up on her anti-vax and MAGA looniness back in 2021.

She had problems with publication of her book Outrages due to serious inaccuracies and "misinterpretations" in 2019. Her books have regularly been criticized for weak research and factual errors.

Her acquaintance with the left-winged side of the conspiracy fringe was talked about in 2014 (if not earlier).

And now for an important public service announcement:

 

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Clearly fake. The real Donald wouldn't shut up.
I dunno. Have you heard or seen him make any mention of Thomas Crooks or the assassination attempt since it happened?
 

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ChatGPT got all of the questions correct.

It got stumped when I asked it "How do you feel?"

 

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Not sure about that argument -- whatever these women say, it's hardly likely he'll be successfully impeached over it, and unless nature takes a hand Tump will continue to be POTUS until January 2029 at the earliest.

The article says
If you think the Access Hollywood tape was damaging…imagine sworn testimony that ties the President to Epstein’s world in a way that can’t be spun away.
but the Access Hollywood tape wasn't sufficiently damaging to prevent his election in 2016, any more than were the jury's verdict in the E Jean Carroll sexual assault case or his abortive coup attempt.

So, sadly, I don't see how these women's accounts of his rapes and sexual assaults are going to be any more effective. It would be nice to think we lived in a world where that was the case, but unfortunately we don't.
 

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Not sure about that argument -- whatever these women say, it's hardly likely he'll be successfully impeached over it, and unless nature takes a hand Tump will continue to be POTUS until January 2029 at the earliest.

The article says but the Access Hollywood tape wasn't sufficiently damaging to prevent his election in 2016, any more than were the jury's verdict in the E Jean Carroll sexual assault case or his abortive coup attempt.

So, sadly, I don't see how these women's accounts of his rapes and sexual assaults are going to be any more effective. It would be nice to think we lived in a world where that was the case, but unfortunately we don't.
Agreed. There is already SO MUCH dirt on him that should be career ending, but seems to not hurt him much at all. I have no confidence that anything would do the trick.
 

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I teach a University freshman class. I can say this is pretty much cherrypicked bullshit. My students may miss some trivia, but they are smart and can reason just fine.
Of course if that even would be a problem with university students, than God help us all.
It is the huge group with capacities below them, that worries me.