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20,000 heavily armored, mounted soldiers, armed with heavy lances - largest cavalry charge in history.
The Russia-Ukraine War has begun
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The most predictable thing happened:
An obvious outcome for anyone who looked at a map of Europe.
An obvious outcome for anyone who looked at a map of Europe.
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Ukraine signed a letter of intent to buy 150 Saab Gripen jet fighters from Sweden.
The Gripen has the reputation of being relatively cheap and easy to maintain and operate, also to perform well under austere conditions. It can even use dirty roads as runways. So the opposite of the F35.
The Gripen has the reputation of being relatively cheap and easy to maintain and operate, also to perform well under austere conditions. It can even use dirty roads as runways. So the opposite of the F35.
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There are now rumors spreading that behind the scenes people are working to get Putin to the WEF Forum in Davos 2026 in order to meet Trump and Zelensky.
Switzerland supports Ukraine, and the ICC arrast warrant, but it could be ignored for that occassion. The question though is how Putin would get there, because most countries on the way to Switzerland are either in the EU or pro Ukraine.
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Switzerland supports Ukraine, and the ICC arrast warrant, but it could be ignored for that occassion. The question though is how Putin would get there, because most countries on the way to Switzerland are either in the EU or pro Ukraine.
In Davos sollen sich Trump und Selenski mit Putin treffen
Das Weltwirtschaftsforum 2026 in Davos könnte zu einem Friedensgipfel werden. Donald Trump und Wolodimir Selenski haben ihre Teilnahme bereits angekündigt. Einflussreiche Kreise arbeiten nun daran, auch Wladimir Putin in die Schweiz zu bringen.
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The US Army is pulling out a brigade from Romania, about 700 soldiers less. They are moved towards China.
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US to Remove Brigade From Romania, Sources Tell Kyiv Post
The force posture review favors resources for the Western Hemisphere and Indo-Pacific, raising questions about America’s commitment to deterring Putin in the Black Sea region.
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The Trump administration came up with a new gift to Putin err peace plan abomination. It was negotiated without Ukraine's participation.
Main points are: Ukraine has to give up additional territory in the east, cap the size of its military and agree to never join NATO. In return the war would end, and Ukraine would be covered by US safety guarantees. Now we all do know how much these are worth under Trump.
People involved were Witkoff, Marco Rubio with Jared Kushner and Russian envoy Kirill Dmitriev. The Russian envoy is quite pleased, saying "we feel the Russian position is really being heared."
Zelensky described the plan as US vision but not the final offer. He emphasized that Ukraine has red lines and would give input to make the plan truly meaningful.
An US official claimed the plan is a lave document that can be changed based on discussions with both parties.
Main points are: Ukraine has to give up additional territory in the east, cap the size of its military and agree to never join NATO. In return the war would end, and Ukraine would be covered by US safety guarantees. Now we all do know how much these are worth under Trump.
People involved were Witkoff, Marco Rubio with Jared Kushner and Russian envoy Kirill Dmitriev. The Russian envoy is quite pleased, saying "we feel the Russian position is really being heared."
Zelensky described the plan as US vision but not the final offer. He emphasized that Ukraine has red lines and would give input to make the plan truly meaningful.
An US official claimed the plan is a lave document that can be changed based on discussions with both parties.
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Trump is now putting maximum pressure on Ukraine to accept their capitulation, err "peace plan" by Thursday.
Zelensky called it in a 10 minute speech that way: either it could keep its dignity, or risk loosing America as major ally.
“Now the pressure on Ukraine is one of the heaviest,” he said. Its options included agreeing to Trump’s 28-point proposal or “an extremely difficult winter”, which has already seen Russia destroy much of the country’s energy infrastructure, with millions of people left without heating and in the dark.
Agreeing to the US-Russian plan could leave Ukraine “without freedom, dignity and justice”, he said. It would also mean believing “someone who has already attacked us twice”, he said, adding that he would never sacrifice Ukraine’s interests or go against its constitution. “We did not betray Ukraine then [in 2022], and we will not do so now,” he declared.
Speaking on Fox radio, Trump said he thought Thursday was an “appropriate time” for Zelenskyy to sign the deal, and said he believed Ukraine could not prevent Russia’s army from taking the Donbas territories by force.
The US president is pursuing an “aggressive timeline” to end the conflict, US officials indicated, and intends to heap unprecedented pressure on Kyiv.
Trump is also threatening to cut vital intelligence sharing and weapons supplies for Ukraine if it fails to agree, reports suggest.
A US official, when asked whether the US could cut off intelligence sharing or logistical support if Kyiv did not sign the deal, said: “It was strongly implied to the Ukrainians that the United States expects them to agree to a peace deal. Any changes will be decided upon by the president himself.”
On Friday, European leaders pushed back on the proposal, which Ukrainian politicians say is “absurd”.
Zelensky called it in a 10 minute speech that way: either it could keep its dignity, or risk loosing America as major ally.
“Now the pressure on Ukraine is one of the heaviest,” he said. Its options included agreeing to Trump’s 28-point proposal or “an extremely difficult winter”, which has already seen Russia destroy much of the country’s energy infrastructure, with millions of people left without heating and in the dark.
Agreeing to the US-Russian plan could leave Ukraine “without freedom, dignity and justice”, he said. It would also mean believing “someone who has already attacked us twice”, he said, adding that he would never sacrifice Ukraine’s interests or go against its constitution. “We did not betray Ukraine then [in 2022], and we will not do so now,” he declared.
Speaking on Fox radio, Trump said he thought Thursday was an “appropriate time” for Zelenskyy to sign the deal, and said he believed Ukraine could not prevent Russia’s army from taking the Donbas territories by force.
The US president is pursuing an “aggressive timeline” to end the conflict, US officials indicated, and intends to heap unprecedented pressure on Kyiv.
Trump is also threatening to cut vital intelligence sharing and weapons supplies for Ukraine if it fails to agree, reports suggest.
A US official, when asked whether the US could cut off intelligence sharing or logistical support if Kyiv did not sign the deal, said: “It was strongly implied to the Ukrainians that the United States expects them to agree to a peace deal. Any changes will be decided upon by the president himself.”
On Friday, European leaders pushed back on the proposal, which Ukrainian politicians say is “absurd”.
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J.D. Vance has something to say about the "peace plan".
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USA and Ukraine agreed on a revised version of the peace plan. Now it is up to Russia to agree to it as well.
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Joint Statement on United States-Ukraine Meeting
On 23 November 2025, representatives of the United States and Ukraine met in Geneva for discussions on the U.S. peace proposal. The talks were
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Four unidentified military-style drones breached no-fly zone to target Zelenskyy's arrival in Dublin
Gardaí are investigating whether the drones took off from land in Dublin or from an undetected ship.
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Ukraine Claims It Hit Russian Submarine in Wartime First - The Moscow Times
Ukraine said Monday that its underwater drones had for the first time successfully struck a Russian submarine docked at the Black Sea port of Novorossiysk.
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Russia is denying any damage occurred. But this does lead to a meme revival.
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Margaret Thatcher in a blast from the past.
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The Grocer's Daughter on Instagram: "“You don't negotiate with someone who marches into another country, devastates it, killing whoever stands in his way. You get him out…” — Speech to Conservative Party Conference (1990) #thatcher #thatcher100 #history #leader #leadership #conservatives #2025"
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Ukraine Claims It Hit Russian Submarine in Wartime First - The Moscow Times
Ukraine said Monday that its underwater drones had for the first time successfully struck a Russian submarine docked at the Black Sea port of Novorossiysk.
Russia is denying any damage occurred. But this does lead to a meme revival.
Ukraine Destroys Second Russian Submarine in Novorossiysk - Oj
Ukraine struck a Russian Project 636.3 “Varshavyanka”-class submarine in Novorossiysk, marking the second submarine destroyed in the Black Sea.
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Russia Reopens Mariupol Theatre on a Mass Grave
The Russians dance on Ukrainian bones
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lana, "sati."
meet a queer ukrainian hero who sacrified their life fighting russian imperialism.
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Emmanuel Macron says that nowadays 2/3 of the intelligence information provided to Ukraine comes from France.
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Whatever the case, nobody should be sharing intelligence with the U.S. Team Trump cannot be trusted.
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FACT-CHECK: Did Ukraine Run Sting on US Intel to Catch Russia Leaks?
Kyiv has rejected claims by former French operative Vincent Crouzet, saying there is no evidence to support his suggestion that Ukraine fed fake intelligence to the US to test leaks to Moscow.
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