The Russia-Ukraine War has begun

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Itt would not be Poland, not unless the whole of NATO begged them to do so. They have a very strong ""Never Again" attitude towards Russia. Nations who were once great tend to become hardasses once they escaped, and Poles still remember they saved Europe at Vienna some hundreds of years ago
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There are now rumors spreading that behind the scenes people are working to get Putin to the WEF Forum in Davos 2026 in order to meet Trump and Zelensky.

Switzerland supports Ukraine, and the ICC arrast warrant, but it could be ignored for that occassion. The question though is how Putin would get there, because most countries on the way to Switzerland are either in the EU or pro Ukraine.

 

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The Trump administration came up with a new gift to Putin err peace plan abomination. It was negotiated without Ukraine's participation.

Main points are: Ukraine has to give up additional territory in the east, cap the size of its military and agree to never join NATO. In return the war would end, and Ukraine would be covered by US safety guarantees. Now we all do know how much these are worth under Trump.

People involved were Witkoff, Marco Rubio with Jared Kushner and Russian envoy Kirill Dmitriev. The Russian envoy is quite pleased, saying "we feel the Russian position is really being heared."

Zelensky described the plan as US vision but not the final offer. He emphasized that Ukraine has red lines and would give input to make the plan truly meaningful.

An US official claimed the plan is a lave document that can be changed based on discussions with both parties.

 

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Trump is now putting maximum pressure on Ukraine to accept their capitulation, err "peace plan" by Thursday.

Zelensky called it in a 10 minute speech that way: either it could keep its dignity, or risk loosing America as major ally.

“Now the pressure on Ukraine is one of the heaviest,” he said. Its options included agreeing to Trump’s 28-point proposal or “an extremely difficult winter”, which has already seen Russia destroy much of the country’s energy infrastructure, with millions of people left without heating and in the dark.

Agreeing to the US-Russian plan could leave Ukraine “without freedom, dignity and justice”, he said. It would also mean believing “someone who has already attacked us twice”, he said, adding that he would never sacrifice Ukraine’s interests or go against its constitution. “We did not betray Ukraine then [in 2022], and we will not do so now,” he declared.

Speaking on Fox radio, Trump said he thought Thursday was an “appropriate time” for Zelenskyy to sign the deal, and said he believed Ukraine could not prevent Russia’s army from taking the Donbas territories by force.

The US president is pursuing an “aggressive timeline” to end the conflict, US officials indicated, and intends to heap unprecedented pressure on Kyiv.
Trump is also threatening to cut vital intelligence sharing and weapons supplies for Ukraine if it fails to agree, reports suggest.

A US official, when asked whether the US could cut off intelligence sharing or logistical support if Kyiv did not sign the deal, said: “It was strongly implied to the Ukrainians that the United States expects them to agree to a peace deal. Any changes will be decided upon by the president himself.”

On Friday, European leaders pushed back on the proposal, which Ukrainian politicians say is “absurd”.

 
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FOUR UNIDENTIFIED MILITARY-STYLE drones breached a no-fly zone and flew towards the flight path of Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s plane at sea near Dublin Airport late on Monday night, The Journal has learned.

The plane landed, slightly ahead of schedule, just moments before the incident happened at about 11pm. The drones reached the location where Zelenskyy’s plane was expected to be at the exact moment it had been due to pass.

The drones then orbited above an Irish Navy vessel that had secretly been deployed in the Irish Sea for the Zelenskyy visit.
Sources have said that the drones took off from the north-east of Dublin, possibly near Howth, and flew for up to two hours. Enquiries are being carried out to determine whether the drones took off from land or from an undetected ship.

It is not yet known who launched and controlled the drones or where the drones are now.
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Ukraine said on Monday its underwater drones had for the first time in the war with Russia successfully struck a Russian submarine docked at the Black Sea port of Novorossiysk.

Ukraine’s SBU security service said in a statement on Telegram that it had carried out a “unique special operation” using naval drones in the port.

“For the first time in history, Sub Sea Baby underwater drones blew up a Russian Project 636.3 Varshavyanka-class submarine,” the SBU said, adding that the vessel was equipped with four Kalibr cruise missile launchers used to strike Ukrainian territory.
Russia is denying any damage occurred. But this does lead to a meme revival.

 

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Russia is denying any damage occurred. But this does lead to a meme revival.


 

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Whatever the case, nobody should be sharing intelligence with the U.S. Team Trump cannot be trusted.