The Russia-Ukraine War has begun

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Ukraine didn't want to share their borscht recipe, so Russia had to invade.
I know how to make goulash though.
The modern version: Take one Putin ......... garlic ..... unions ....... a sharp butchers knife .........

I think I have translation problems at the moment, so I'll post the full recipe another time.
 
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I know how to make goulash though.
The modern version: Take one Putin ......... garlic ..... unions ....... a sharp butchers knife .........

I think I have translation problems at the moment, so I'll post the full recipe another time.
Ritz Crackers for sure. Putin on the Ritz.
 
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It could be done in a matter of weeks instead of years?
I don't know if this is a smart idea.
The Dutch news site nu.nl lets a Dutch professor of European law explain, why Von der Leyden's announcement to do it within weeks is not likely to happen.


For those who are not so familiar with the Dutch language, I threw the text into Google Translate and this is what came out of it:

Ursula von der Leyen, the president of the European Commission, promised Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Friday that Ukraine will accelerate the process of joining (or not) the European Union. Yet it remains unrealistic that the country will become part of the EU in the short term, professor of EU law Fabian Amtenbrink told NU.nl.

Von der Leyen gave Zelensky an envelope containing a questionnaire that forms the starting point for the EU to decide on membership. If it were up to her, that process will take "not as usual years, but weeks." According to Amtenbrink, the envelope and its contents were symbolic, but the signal that von der Leyen wanted to send is clear: "Namely that the EU is indeed taking steps towards Ukrainian membership."

A lot of steps still need to be taken before a country can join the EU. "That is a process that, in the best case scenario, can easily take five to ten years," says Amtenbrink. Moreover, it is ultimately up to the 27 EU member states to decide unanimously on the possible admission of Ukraine, and not to von der Leyen and the European Commission (EC).

According to the professor, what the EU can do relatively quickly is give Ukraine candidate member status.
Such a candidate status does not automatically entitle you to eventual membership, but the EU can send out a strong political signal.

But before the 27 EU countries vote on a possible candidate for membership for Ukraine, EC advice is required first. This process normally also takes one and a half to two years, although no specific time period is mentioned in the EU rules, according to Amtenbrink.
The EU could therefore choose - if it really wanted to - to shorten the process extremely. This would then be a political choice, but one that could create a precedent (an earlier decision, which another party can later rely on, ed.), Amtenbrink points out.

It remains to be seen whether the EU will proceed with such an accelerated assessment. Because although von der Leyen talked with Zelensky at the press conference on Friday about "a process of weeks", the statement of the chairman that the EC published on its website afterwards was already a lot more nuanced. It describes the delivery of the envelope as "the basis for our discussion in the coming months".

Ukraine must become a stable democracy
Should Ukraine eventually achieve candidate status, the next step will be full EU membership. To do this, the country must meet a whole list of admission requirements. For example, the country must become a stable democracy and have a functioning market economy, as well as a constitutional state that protects human rights.
In addition, a country must adapt its laws to all EU standards as we also know them in the Netherlands.
It's not finished yet.
Once the entire procedure has been completed and the EC has once again issued a positive advice about a country, all 27 member states must still unanimously approve the accession, according to Article 49 of the EU Treaty. After that, the European Parliament must do the same and then all countries must also ratify (ratify) the accession treaty. In other words: "An extremely lengthy and difficult process", according to Amtenbrink.
 
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Makes me wonder who took a page from who's book. Trump or Putin.
Is this a trick question? I mean, Trump is stupid evil, so he prolly had to get the idea from anyone else but him.
 

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Is this a trick question? I mean, Trump is stupid evil, so he prolly had to get the idea from anyone else but him.
It's not even a question. It's a statement. In question form it would read more like "Did Putin get the idea from Trump or did Trump get the idea (separating families at the border) from Putin?"
 
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Is this a trick question? I mean, Trump is stupid evil, so he prolly had to get the idea from anyone else but him.
Russia has a LONG history of ethnic cleansing as they expanded. I'm not just talking about the soviet union. I'm sure some of these kids will end up with Russian parents who will try to gaslight them that the invasion wasn't even real...
 

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Russia has a LONG history of ethnic cleansing as they expanded. I'm not just talking about the soviet union. I'm sure some of these kids will end up with Russian parents who will try to gaslight them that the invasion wasn't even real...
To be fair? Most of Europe has a long history of that - at least, at different points in time.
 

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To be fair? Most of Europe has a long history of that - at least, at different points in time.
And to this day they still pass the buck every time I point out where a lot of what is happening in the US now originated. I know it isn't pleasant to admit and acknowledge it but until that happens, nothing will change.

pass the buck

phrase of buck

  1. INFORMAL
    shift the responsibility for something to someone else.
    "elected political leaders cannot pass the buck for crisis decisions to any alternative source of authority"
 
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British PM Boris Johnson met Volydymyr Zeenskiy in an unannounced visit to Kyiv. Discussions were about UK's long-term support for Ukraine and new aid package to Ukraine.



Just a day after Ursula von der Leyen visited Kyiv.
 
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Poland decided that Hungary is nowadays to cuddly with Russia, and has frozen their relationship with Hungary.

To quote the Polish deputy prime minster for security affairs: "Orban needs an ophthalmologist to open his eyes to atrocities in Bucha. Restoration of our relations is possible only after a change in Hungary's assessments of the war in Ukraine."

This means the end of the Visegrád group for the moment.

 
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Boris Johnson walking around in Kyiv. Some people mock him about that EU's von der Leyen visited before him. Then again he's the first head of government of a G7 state to visit Zelensky in person.