The Russia-Ukraine War has begun

[Dakota Tebaldi]

 

[CronoCloud Creeggan]

 

[Innula Zenovka]

Fears genocidal language in Russian media may prompt more war crimes

State news agency publishes article decrying ‘Ukrainianism’ as an ‘artificial anti-Russian construct with no civilisational substance’

www.theguardian.com

Evernote link

 

[Innula Zenovka]

Internally Displaced Persons in Ukraine

 

[Bartholomew Gallacher]

Zelensky held two more speeches. First speech was before the Greek parliament, which followed his usual patterns. One problem was the translators, because they first translated from Ukrainian to English, then English to Greek, so the translation was not the best.

More impact though had the grave mistakes made by Zelensky. Zelensky wanted to score sympathy points by presenting two Ukrainian fighters of supposedly Greek descent. So he handed over the microphone for a while to two masked fighters of the extreme right wing Azov bataillon. Allowing what the Greek view as Neo Nazis to speak before their parliament was too much for many; some members of the parliament left then the building as protest.

Here's what former PM Alexis Tsipras had to say: “The speech by members of the neo-Nazi Azov Battalion in the Greek Parliament is a challenge. They spoke of a history day, but it’s a historic shame. Solidarity with the Ukrainian people is a given. But the Nazi cannot have a say in parliament."

Zelensky’s taped speech to Parliament causes uproar, as neo-Nazi linked Azov Brigade fighters also spoke | in.gr

Opposition parties roundly condemned the government for its failure to review the tape before playing it on a large screen in a special session of Parliament attended by President Katerina Sakellaropoulou.

www.in.gr

Zelensky also held a speech at the parliament of Cyprus. Here he made another, grave mistake: Zelensky talked about the hardships of being occupied by the Russians since 2014, but did not address or even sympathized with Cyprus, which is partially occupied by the Turks since 1974.

So the president of Cyprus, Nicos Anastasiades, stated afterwards quite disappointed: "We did not expect a reference to the Turkish invasion today, although, there should have been one. What we expected today was to hear about the suffering of the Ukrainian people, however, we suffered the same in 1974."

"We are disturbed by the fact that there was no mention of it. The principles of law do not distinguish between states and the rights of some being violated and of others being ignored, we followed the principles of international law. If there are others with a more flexible conscience or who can tolerate similar acts as long as they are not affected, this is completely alien to the principles that govern a European country and especially a country that has experienced and is still experiencing to this day the suffering of an invasion that was justified with exactly the same arguments and, unfortunately, on the same rationale which is non-existent."

Anastasiades irked by Zelensky's failure to condemn Turkish invasion

The President of Cyprus Nicos Anastasiades expressed his annoyance at the failure of the President of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelensky, to condemn the Turkish invasion of Cyprus during his speech before the plenary session of the House of Representatives on Thursday.

knews.kathimerini.com.cy

So after Zelensky irritated Israel's parliament, the Knesset, by comparing the Russian invasion with the Holocaust these are two more occassions where he was not prepared well enough to strengthen support and partnership.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

Zelensky held two more speeches. First speech was before the Greek parliament, which followed his usual patterns. One problem was the translators, because they first translated from Ukrainian to English, then English to Greek, so the translation was not the best.

More impact though had the grave mistakes made by Zelensky. Zelensky wanted to score sympathy points by presenting two Ukrainian fighters of supposedly Greek descent. So he handed over the microphone for a while to two masked fighters of the extreme right wing Azov bataillon. Allowing what the Greek view as Neo Nazis to speak before their parliament was too much for many; some members of the parliament left then the building as protest.

Here's what former PM Alexis Tsipras had to say: “The speech by members of the neo-Nazi Azov Battalion in the Greek Parliament is a challenge. They spoke of a history day, but it’s a historic shame. Solidarity with the Ukrainian people is a given. But the Nazi cannot have a say in parliament."

Zelensky’s taped speech to Parliament causes uproar, as neo-Nazi linked Azov Brigade fighters also spoke | in.gr

Opposition parties roundly condemned the government for its failure to review the tape before playing it on a large screen in a special session of Parliament attended by President Katerina Sakellaropoulou.

www.in.gr

Zelensky also held a speech at the parliament of Cyprus. Here he made another, grave mistake: Zelensky talked about the hardships of being occupied by the Russians since 2014, but did not address or even sympathized with Cyprus, which is partially occupied by the Turks since 1974.

So the president of Cyprus, Nicos Anastasiades, stated afterwards quite disappointed: "We did not expect a reference to the Turkish invasion today, although, there should have been one. What we expected today was to hear about the suffering of the Ukrainian people, however, we suffered the same in 1974."

"We are disturbed by the fact that there was no mention of it. The principles of law do not distinguish between states and the rights of some being violated and of others being ignored, we followed the principles of international law. If there are others with a more flexible conscience or who can tolerate similar acts as long as they are not affected, this is completely alien to the principles that govern a European country and especially a country that has experienced and is still experiencing to this day the suffering of an invasion that was justified with exactly the same arguments and, unfortunately, on the same rationale which is non-existent."

Anastasiades irked by Zelensky's failure to condemn Turkish invasion

The President of Cyprus Nicos Anastasiades expressed his annoyance at the failure of the President of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelensky, to condemn the Turkish invasion of Cyprus during his speech before the plenary session of the House of Representatives on Thursday.

knews.kathimerini.com.cy

So after Zelensky irritated Israel's parliament, the Knesset, by comparing the Russian invasion with the Holocaust these are two more occassions where he was not prepared well enough to strengthen support and partnership.

According to the BBC's Ros Atkins, the Azov Regiment has changed quite a lot since it was incorporated into the Ukrainian National Guard

 

[Bartholomew Gallacher]

Could be true, could be wrong. This will not change the fact that what Zelensky did caused a major uproar in the Greek parliament, so it's safe to say that this was not the wisest idea ever giving somebody from that regiment screen time in that context.

And as long as they are unwilling to change their insignia, which are reminscent to SS symbols, they will always be faced with suspiscions of being far right wing.

 

[WolfEyes]

Ukrainian Refugees Discover the Fastest Way Into the United States Is Through Mexico (msn.com)

A growing number of Ukrainian refugees — fleeing Russia's invasion and often emotionally drained from the journey — are flying to Mexico as they've discovered this is the quickest way to ultimately enter the U.S., immigration experts tell PEOPLE.

For the last few weeks, with the help of a cadre of volunteers at the San Ysidro Port of Entry, hundred of people have gathered in Tijuana along America's southern border hoping to cross into San Diego.

"People just seemed exhausted, tired," says immigration attorney Julia Neusner, who recently spent about two weeks in the area.

"I spoke with a couple people who told me that they had been traveling for seven days straight," she says.

Ukrainian refugees are flying to Mexico and making their way to the border there because they've been denied visas to fly into the U.S., while Mexico does not require a visa to enter, the immigration experts say.

In Tijuana, hundreds of Ukrainians have waited for days beneath tents and tarps, many sitting in camping chairs, and a covered bus station was "completely full of people," Neusner says.

 

[Aribeth Zelin]

Zelensky held two more speeches. First speech was before the Greek parliament, which followed his usual patterns. One problem was the translators, because they first translated from Ukrainian to English, then English to Greek, so the translation was not the best.

More impact though had the grave mistakes made by Zelensky. Zelensky wanted to score sympathy points by presenting two Ukrainian fighters of supposedly Greek descent. So he handed over the microphone for a while to two masked fighters of the extreme right wing Azov bataillon. Allowing what the Greek view as Neo Nazis to speak before their parliament was too much for many; some members of the parliament left then the building as protest.

Here's what former PM Alexis Tsipras had to say: “The speech by members of the neo-Nazi Azov Battalion in the Greek Parliament is a challenge. They spoke of a history day, but it’s a historic shame. Solidarity with the Ukrainian people is a given. But the Nazi cannot have a say in parliament."

Zelensky’s taped speech to Parliament causes uproar, as neo-Nazi linked Azov Brigade fighters also spoke | in.gr

Opposition parties roundly condemned the government for its failure to review the tape before playing it on a large screen in a special session of Parliament attended by President Katerina Sakellaropoulou.

www.in.gr

Zelensky also held a speech at the parliament of Cyprus. Here he made another, grave mistake: Zelensky talked about the hardships of being occupied by the Russians since 2014, but did not address or even sympathized with Cyprus, which is partially occupied by the Turks since 1974.

So the president of Cyprus, Nicos Anastasiades, stated afterwards quite disappointed: "We did not expect a reference to the Turkish invasion today, although, there should have been one. What we expected today was to hear about the suffering of the Ukrainian people, however, we suffered the same in 1974."

"We are disturbed by the fact that there was no mention of it. The principles of law do not distinguish between states and the rights of some being violated and of others being ignored, we followed the principles of international law. If there are others with a more flexible conscience or who can tolerate similar acts as long as they are not affected, this is completely alien to the principles that govern a European country and especially a country that has experienced and is still experiencing to this day the suffering of an invasion that was justified with exactly the same arguments and, unfortunately, on the same rationale which is non-existent."

Anastasiades irked by Zelensky's failure to condemn Turkish invasion

The President of Cyprus Nicos Anastasiades expressed his annoyance at the failure of the President of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelensky, to condemn the Turkish invasion of Cyprus during his speech before the plenary session of the House of Representatives on Thursday.

knews.kathimerini.com.cy

So after Zelensky irritated Israel's parliament, the Knesset, by comparing the Russian invasion with the Holocaust these are two more occassions where he was not prepared well enough to strengthen support and partnership.

Just going to say that people sure are nitpicking at the only world leader I know of these days who is staying with his country and witnessing the horrors and the fighting up close, instead of being a government in exile.

From complaining he was wearing a teeshirt before congress to making missteps, to being accused of being a nazi by a full out fasc.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

Seems some of the pro-Russian militias are using Nazi insignia

Pro-Russian Fighter With Nazi Patches Gets Medal for Killing 'Nazis'

A pro-Russian soldier can be seen in a video wearing an emblem used by Nazi Germany's Waffen-SS and a symbol of interlocking triangles from Norse mythology commonly used by neo-Nazis.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Bartholomew Gallacher]

From complaining he was wearing a teeshirt before congress to making missteps, to being accused of being a nazi by a full out fasc.

No, this is different. The speech Zelensky held before the US Senate was well orchestrated, also his outfit. The speech before the Greek parliament was not. Many Greeks are still quite sensitives about Nazis, being on the receiving end of their WWII cruelties. And not Zelensky is being accused by the greek MPs of being a Nazi. What caused the outrage was that he gave members some of the Azov battallion screen time. And yes, the Azov battallion is being considered by many as mostly a group of mostly Neo Nazis.

 

[Aribeth Zelin]

No, this is different. The speech Zelensky held before the US Senate was well orchestrated, also his outfit. The speech before the Greek parliament was not. Many Greeks are still quite sensitives about Nazis, being on the receiving end of their WWII cruelties. And not Zelensky is being accused by the greek MPs of being a Nazi. What caused the outrage was that he gave members some of the Azov battallion screen time. And yes, the Azov battallion is being considered by many as mostly a group of mostly Neo Nazis.

I was speaking in general - since Putin is accusing him of being a nazi. And I believe Innula linked a very imformative twitter thread that included a comparison of relative levels of authoritarian tendencies across Europe - and inside the EU there is a lot more of that than in Ukraine - of course, the author of the thread is Ukrainian, but she didn't shy away from pointing out the warts of her own country, either.

Anyway, be that as it may, I think maybe our problem is talking past each other at times [not just the two of us, but people in general] because even when we're speaking, in theory our native language, there are differences, and our native languages affect how we parse out meaning, even in other languages, or so it seems to me.

 

[Bartholomew Gallacher]

Ah got it. Well yes, Putin is able to hallucinate everywhere Nazis where he wants to invade and send his own Nazis of Wagner group to kill those.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

 

[Beebo Brink]

Energy Minister: Russian soldiers who were in Chornobyl have a year to live at most

Friday, 8 April 2022, 18:47 – Ekonomichna Pravda

www.pravda.com.ua

 

[Innula Zenovka]

 

[Sid]

It could be done in a matter of weeks instead of years?
I don't know if this is a smart idea.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

Interesting thread

 

[Essence Lumin]

It could be done in a matter of weeks instead of years?
I don't know if this is a smart idea.

Hungary didn't work out well. It also sounds like an invitation to World War 3.

 

[detrius]

Ukraine didn't want to share their borscht recipe, so Russia had to invade.