The 2024 U.S. Presidential race

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I split my time between San Fransisco, Massachusetts, and rural Indiana. There are VERY MUCH red areas, and blue areas, with radically different thinking on even basic issues. It does however break down more to urban verses rural than any arbitrary boundary. The literally isolated and insolated rural areas are where the Repugs thrive.
I live there. You are correct.

I don't mean this insultingly. But in rural areas life is more about surviving than thriving - often on farms that either turn a profit or the family business dies. In rural towns, the biggest struggle is finding work if you're not on a farm. And kids have to commute on buses sometimes for a couple of hours per day because all of the smaller towns consolidated schools. If you're lucky, you're within range of a cell tower because there are large areas, some hidden in valleys, where you'll need an act of god to get a signal.

It's not that these people are stupid. Most are not - but there is a challenge in getting educated. Especially on farms if the school boy/girl is needed to help with the harvest instead of studying.

There is another challenge with respect to information. Cable has spread pretty far, and some municipals even have their own but in wide stretches of Western Nebraska, for example, you'd better have a satellite dish and pray for clear weather. It's understandable why conservative corporations like Sinclair and Ruddy (Newsmax), etc have found such a wide and fertile ground for their brand of intellectual poison.
 

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One lawsuit so far on the $1 million a day scheme from Musk's America PAC.

Philadelphia DA sues Elon Musk over $1 million giveaway to registered voters
On Monday, Philadelphia District Attorney Larry Krasner asked a state judge to stop Elon Musk’s $1 million giveaway to registered voters, calling the scheme “indisputably an unlawful lottery.”

Krasner brought the suit against Musk and his political action committee, America PAC.

“America PAC and Elon Musk are running an illegal lottery in Philadelphia (as well as throughout Pennsylvania),” the suit said.

And it's aftermath.

Citing antisemitic attacks and a barrage of harassment ahead of a court hearing in Pennsylvania over Elon Musk’s daily $1 million giveaway to registered voters, Philadelphia District Attorney Larry Krasner asked a court on Wednesday to “enhance its security” around the impending hearing.

The request filed Wednesday comes days after Krasner first sued Musk for what the district attorney’s office argues is an “illegal lottery scheme” launched by Musk and his pro-Trump political action committee, America PAC.
 

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A northern Minnesota woman accused of trying to submit a mail ballot for her recently deceased mother has been charged with three felonies, showing how routine election safeguards thwart rare instances of attempted voter fraud.
That's right, ROUTINE safeguards stopped this. It's sad that newspapers need to state this in the first paragraph of an article, but that's where we are now.

Naturally, the deceased mom was a Trump supporter (so claims her daughter, the one with 3 felony charges).
 

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I don't see any signs of this "firestorm" anywhere. Checked all my usual news sources, and no one is covering this. I'd sorta be surprised if they did, given that Biden isn't really considered newsworthy anymore, even though he's still, like, the president and all that.
I thought Biden was being too kind. MAGA aren't just garbage, they're outright domestic fucking terrorists!
 

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I agree. Harris has been great.... but as I said to Innula, the polls are close enough so that I worry about every minor detail.
For what it's worth, the polls had Clinton with a decisive win over Trump, and look how that turned out. I don't place much faith in these polls.
 
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Also, if I spotted a garbage man wearing a sparkling clean vest and no gloves in the real world, then I'd wonder if they're actually doing their job.

The message that I'm getting is that nobody in Trump's campaign associates with working class people, so they don't know how to procure genuine props for their staged photo ops.
 

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The whole look suits him.
I can't get over how half-assed his racist Halloween costume looks.

Half-assed blackface, half-assed garbage collector costume.

It looks like he spent 30 seconds on assembling the outfit for his pretend-working class minstrel performance, got tired and said "I'm good".

There are costumes for kids that look more authentic:

 

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That's right, ROUTINE safeguards stopped this. It's sad that newspapers need to state this in the first paragraph of an article, but that's where we are now.
Inhate modern reporting aonfucking much for this sort of thing. I am surprised the headline isn't something stupid like "WOMAN CAUGHT DOING SOMETHING SHOCKING, THE CANDIDATES WONT BE PLEASED."

Then the actual meat of the story is 10 paragraphs in.
 

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I'm finally sufficiently recovered from a bad bout of bronchitis that I was comfortable leaving the house this morning for early voting here in West Virginia. Drove downtown to the registrar's office -- where I have early voted for YEARS -- only to find that it's moved to the country government offices that are two blocks from our house.

We timed it perfectly because we were able to just sail in and immediately vote. Yesterday, however, there was a 2-hour wait, so voting has been intense.

ETA: Every time a first-time voter cast a ballot, the poll workers rang a bell (quite vigorously, I must say). It rang three times in the short interval it took me to vote.
 
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On members of the Idiot Cult being garbage.

He isn't wrong, especially at this point. And its just a variation of the stupid Nazi rheroric claiming they are being "repressed" by the "hypocritical left" because they can't freely call people f**** and n****.

No, you are not being repressed, you are being a garbage asshole. You can fuck off with that noise.

The core difference bouls down to calling someone out/insulting them over something they are va something they choose to be. Because Puerto ricans, and LGBT+ and etc etc ARE these things. Its who they are. That is not intended as any negative, but its simply something that is not going to change.

Being a garbage Nazi asshole, is a fucking choice. And people are going to ridicule you and call you out for it.
I'd call them sacks of shit held together by a thin layer of human skin, just like their orange führer.


Biden was too kind. At least garbage can be burned and used to generate electricity.