The 2024 U.S. Presidential race

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Because the solution to a nuclear meltdown is not a dumpster fire.
Choosing between Biden and Trump at this point is like having the waitress tell you your choices are a chicken filet and a shit sandwich sprinkled with shards of broken glass, and you pause to ask how the chicken is cooked.
 

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Choosing between Biden and Trump at this point is like having the waitress tell you your choices are a chicken filet and a shit sandwich sprinkled with shards of broken glass, and you pause to ask how the chicken is cooked.
Good analogy. Up to the point where the glassassinator was on the menu because people have already been ordering it for years and the chicken is being served raw. Some people just need to have their voting privileges revoked.
 
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Choosing between Biden and Trump at this point is like having the waitress tell you your choices are a chicken filet and a shit sandwich sprinkled with shards of broken glass, and you pause to ask how the chicken is cooked.
50-50 odds the bullshit fight picking is fishing around for rationalizing voting Trump. See it’s all our fault we forced them into it.
 

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Actually... How would someone deprogram a Trump cultist? I have one at home and it's getting pretty painful to hear the bodacious conventions, speeches, lectures, Fox news whatevers, endless smug vitriol streaming...
Trump is easy for me. He's a nuclear meltdown.
Biden is tough. It's difficult to see him as anything other than a dumpster fire.
Imagine being face-to-face with a Child of Atom. What would you do?
 
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Choosing between Biden and Trump at this point is like having the waitress tell you your choices are a chicken filet and a shit sandwich sprinkled with shards of broken glass, and you pause to ask how the chicken is cooked.
At least it doesn't have spam in it (Lovely spam!)
 
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Elon Musk reportedly will donate 45 million US$ every month to a pro-Trump Super PAC until the election, so roughly 200 mio US$ in total to support Trump's campaign.

In other words Elon Musk is going all-in on Trump. And he as single donator is paying sums which were before unheared of in American presidential elections.

 

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Actually... How would someone deprogram a Trump cultist? I have one at home and it's getting pretty painful to hear the bodacious conventions, speeches, lectures, Fox news whatevers, endless smug vitriol streaming...
Trump is easy for me. He's a nuclear meltdown.
Biden is tough. It's difficult to see him as anything other than a dumpster fire.
Imagine being face-to-face with a Child of Atom. What would you do?
 

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I can attest to this. My partner views him as a pro-life, christian, good guy, family man, hero, saviour but will never respond when asked how or why.
What about the child rape and throwing money at a 12yo to cover an abortion? "Fake news."
What about the court records proving it? "Dems are just making documents to make him look bad."
What about his tight ties with Epstein? "Fake news."
What about the hush money case? The documents charges? The actual recorded felony conviction? "Fake news because he's not in jail."
I remember when fake news was something more like aliens, bigfoot, Elvis:
 

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1) The fact that Trump still has a shadow of a chance proves that nearly half of America's voters completely lack the capacity to make a rational and informed decision.

2) The fact that Biden still has a shadow of a chance proves another (slightly overlapping) near half are too easy to manipulate.

Surely there is a middle ground of intelligent, socially aware, culturally aware, and rational part of the population along with a neutral means to locate them.
There is no middle ground, the intelligent socially aware and culturally aware people are already voting for Democrats.

Actually, that's my question:
Why participate in a dog&pony show just to choose between Mr Magoo and Tangerine Hitler with the deciding factor being who has the bigger fan club?
Because that's who is running and that is the system we have to deal with.

So, why not vote for one of his competent statesmen? Cut out the middle man who can't tell up from down.
Because THEY are NOT running.

Having the people picked by the president pick the next president who will pick the next people who pick the next president.
That's not how it works, that's not how any of this works.

All the more reason. Why aren't we giving this job to someone who doesn't want it?
Civics...do you speak it. That's not how any of this works.

Had to Google both.
Deflection looks like a bait&switch tactic to me, maybe?
Kami was referring to YOUR deflection.

Primaries looks like a friends-only vote for who to dictate everyone else to vote for, maybe?
That's not how it works, that's not how any of it works.

Joke's on you. I never paid attention in school. Dropped out somewhere around the 9th grade. Flunked too often to be fully aware of which grade I was actually in at the time. =^-^=
:facepalm: Get yourself one of those GED civics books about the Constitution and government. Read it. Learn how the system we have came into be, and how our Constitution defines how our government works and how it has evolved over time.

"Two party system."
We don't have a parliamentary system with coalition governments, so essentially that's how it works. You want a parliamentary system? Good luck with getting that in a polarized nation.

Thank the 'everyone should vote' mentality.
Everyone SHOULD vote. Part of the problem is how LOW American turnout is compared to other developed democracies.

I dunno, so have a cherry on top of a kitten here.

Pusheen! Thanks Free!

but if Trump and his ilk get in, you’ll have much more to worry about than stuttering and shuffling.
I'm trans so you know I'm worrying.

Because the solution to a nuclear meltdown is not a dumpster fire.
Look, let me be perfectly clear. We have to live with the system we have. That system has given us the choice we have. If you refuse the choice, because it isn't the "perfect" choice, you are part of the problem. I'll take a dumpster fire, which Biden is NOT, over a nuclear Meltdown any day of the week and twice on Tuesdays.

It's not something someone is allowing. People are actively voting for a fascist dictatorship. Apparently half of the population. Who are they and why are they allowed to vote? Really, why should any overrepresented majority be permitted to vote?
Voting rights are a thing that exists, even for bigoted assholes who have been led astray by lies to make them feel better about their lot in life.

Actually... How would someone deprogram a Trump cultist? I have one at home and it's getting pretty painful to hear the bodacious conventions, speeches, lectures, Fox news whatevers, endless smug vitriol streaming...
You don't, best to bail out.

Biden is tough. It's difficult to see him as anything other than a dumpster fire.
If you can't bring yourself to support the one we need to support to keep The Orange One out of the White House, there is no hope for you and you are part of the problem.
 

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. Some people just need to have their voting privileges revoked.
If he wins, or has it handed to him by the Supreme Court like shrub jr did... You'll get your wish.

Won't be fair or good, but some people will have their voting privileges revoked. Especially non-whites, probably a lot of women with felony records and prison time for having a miscarriage, every trans person, anyone who is a citizen but doesn't have a home, ... Heck anyone registered Democrat will probably just have their votes collected and incinerated, because the police are biased and all the non-political civil servants have been fired and replaced by corrupt partisan hacks. Just like Trump's coalition of cronies has promised in their project 2025 agenda. Any success on any of it will tilt the balance of power directly into their laps in a way that will take generations, war, and inevitable bloodshed to undo.

But sure, please do continue being irrelevant and complicit with this happening by doing nothing. They appreciate your passive support. Just not enough to look out for you afterwards, of course.
 

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If he wins, or has it handed to him by the Supreme Court like shrub jr did... You'll get your wish.

Won't be fair or good, but some people will have their voting privileges revoked. Especially non-whites, probably a lot of women with felony records and prison time for having a miscarriage, every trans person, anyone who is a citizen but doesn't have a home, ... Heck anyone registered Democrat will probably just have their votes collected and incinerated, because the police are biased and all the non-political civil servants have been fired and replaced by corrupt partisan hacks. Just like Trump's coalition of cronies has promised in their project 2025 agenda. Any success on any of it will tilt the balance of power directly into their laps in a way that will take generations, war, and inevitable bloodshed to undo.

But sure, please do continue being irrelevant and complicit with this happening by doing nothing. They appreciate your passive support. Just not enough to look out for you afterwards, of course.
I'm worried that I'm handing out more award emoticons in this thread :(