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Monica Dream

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And by not voting, you have certainly improved the situation for immigrants and the Ukraine. 🙄🙄
 
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And by not voting, you have certainly improved the situation for immigrants and the Ukraine. 🙄🙄
Your grasping a straws now, anything to provoke a reaction.

You don't meet to many Jesus freaks on the left, though. How does that work? Or is it a joke?
 

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You don't meet to many Jesus freaks on the left, though. How does that work? Or is it a joke?
We listen to what Jesus (more importantly The Holy Ghost)actually says instead of what the GOP says he says? 🤷‍♀️
 

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We listen to what Jesus (more importantly The Holy Ghost)actually says instead of what the GOP says he says? 🤷‍♀️
I'm atheist. I'm not above targeting your religion in retaliation for suggesting that my choice not to vote hurts Ukraine.

Which side wants to return nuclear weapons to Ukraine?

Neither.

Does either side want to deploy boots on the ground?

Nope.

Is either side pushing for a date for Ukraine to join NATO?

No.

So what difference does my fucking vote make? It doesn't make a goddamn difference. This is the issue I care the most about and neither side is willing to go far enough to stop the russian invasion. 1000 days of war have transpired. What the russians did to the people in Butcha and Mariupol is unacceptable. Period. Keep on if you want. We can break out the combat footage and the bodies in the street with their hands tied behind their backs and we can talk about how god cannot possibly exist in a world plagued by war. Or we can just go back to regular bitching. Your choice. I don't care.
 

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They are the same at the core. Each side is pushing a narrative that the other side is less than human and must be abolished. Each side blames the other for the things that are wrong. Neither side takes responsibility.
Wholeheartedly disagree. Both sides are NOT the same. One side demands total compliance with its rigid, narrow world view, and will oppress anyone who doesn't comply. The other side wants to preserve everyone's right to peacefully exist. I'll leave it to you to decide which side is which.
 

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Wholeheartedly disagree. Both sides are NOT the same. One side demands total compliance with its rigid, narrow world view, and will oppress anyone who doesn't comply. The other side wants to preserve everyone's right to peacefully exist. I'll leave it to you to decide which side is which.
I think both sides are doing the first part and then claiming they are doing the second. I can agree to disagree, though.
 

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Your inaction enables the rise of Trump -own it, and the damage that will come from Putin's puppet being in office.

All of the rest is nothing but the sound of one hand fapping.
 

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I think both sides are doing the first part and then claiming they are doing the second. I can agree to disagree, though.
And you're objectively wrong, demonstrably wrong.

EDIT: I forgot, no other issues exist for you outside of the ones you give a shit about. That doesn't change that you're wrong; it simply means you're wrong and you don't give a shit that you're wrong.
 
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This is just more judgemental bullshit. It barely deserves a response.
*Breathe, Kat. Breathe...*

Of all the registered voters in the United States, approximately 31% actively voted for Trump. He was nowhere close to holding a majority. He only won by a plurality because nearly 40% of voters, like you, decided to just fucking sit this one out! It is people like you who brought this existential threat to America, democracy, and our very way of life!

And i am going to stop right there, because i feel my blood pressure getting up to dangerous levels.
 

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I think both sides are doing the first part and then claiming they are doing the second. I can agree to disagree, though.
If that's the conclusion you've reached, then you clearly haven't been paying any attention the past 17 years, or even the past eight in particular. Or you live a life of great privilege. I can't determine which.
 
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monica: You're a idiot, Flossy.
Me: Fuck off
/monic throws a 10 page hissy fit in response.

You do realize that labeling everybody who doesn't completely agree with you as evil and treating them as such leaves you without the tools to deal with adversity when you encounter it. It also means that you fail to learn how to interact with other people who have a different opinion and that you end up lacking a bunch of really basic social skills required for navigating disagreements. Without any of these tools, it becomes really hard to debate somebody without acting like meth-head who just ran out of cigarettes and can't remember with room the couch with the money in the cushions is located in.

Monica Dream, I've given you quite a few serious answers, all of which you've ignored. This is intentionally designed give you a way out of the hissy fit you insist on throwing and have an actual conversation if you want to. Yes, I'm going to keep randomly firing insults back at you until you stop doing it to me. Your not accomplishing anything by trying to be snarky asshole, though. Your not even good at being a snarky asshole. I don't even have to try to make you look like a raving lunatic, even as the person with the minority opinion here, I can just sit back return fire and point out what you doing and why it is pointless and stupid.

It can go on forever if you want it to. It doesn't matter to me. I don't hate others because they have a different opinions. I'm only a being nasty toward you because you called me an idiot and have since doubled down on it hard. I even gave you a pass on the first insinuation in the interest of keeping the peace.

Anybody can go back and read all of this and decide which of us is right or wrong, and since you aren't making an effective argument related to the political component to back up your own viewpoint, there is a strong possibility that you end up looking like an even bigger asshole then me, which surely isn't your goal, although it certainly could be.

Whatever you want to do, though. It doesn't matter to me.
 
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*Breathe, Kat. Breathe...*
It's okej. I'm just a random person on the internet with an unpopular opinion about something. I'm sure you have got this. You are in your home court.
Of all the registered voters in the United States, approximately 31% actively voted for Trump. He was nowhere close to holding a majority. He only won by a plurality because nearly 40% of voters, like you, decided to just fucking sit this one out! It is people like you who brought this existential threat to America, democracy, and our very way of life!
This is called scapegoating and it is extremely mellow dramatic.
And i am going to stop right there, because i feel my blood pressure getting up to dangerous levels.
Don't hyperventilate or anything.

Offloading onto me doesn't accomplish anything. I've even offered to explain why I don't want to vote. Have any of the other non-voters offered to explain themselves. Understanding my perspective might even help you convince some of them to vote next time around. You could also try to take something away from the conversation instead of lashing out at me simply because I'm what you can reach and vent at. You certainly typed everything out like an intelligent person who has seen a book. Why does it have to be so emotional?
 
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If that's the conclusion you've reached, then you clearly haven't been paying any attention the past 17 years, or even the past eight in particular. Or you live a life of great privilege. I can't determine which.
This is just more judgemental bullshit. It's aimed at attacking me as a person and not the issue, which for you is apparently me choosing not to vote. None of this has to do with that.
 
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monica: You're a idiot, Flossy.
Me: Fuck off
/monic throws a 10 page hissy fit in response.

You do realize that labeling everybody who doesn't completely agree with as evil and treating them as such leaves you without the tools to deal with adversity when you encounter it. It also means that you fail to learn how to interact with other people who have a different opinion and that you end up lacking a bunch of really basic social skills required for navigating disagreements. Without any of these tools, it becomes really hard to debate somebody without acting like meth-head who just ran out of cigarettes and can't remember with room the couch with the money in the cushions is located in.

Monica Dream, I've given you quite a few serious answers, all of which you've ignored. This is intentionally designed give you a way out of the hissy fit you insist on throwing and have an actual conversation if you want to. Yes, I'm going to keep randomly firing insults back at you until you stop doing it to me. Your not accomplishing anything by trying to be snarky asshole, though. Your not even good at being a snarky asshole. I don't even have to try to make you look like a raving lunatic, even as the person with the minority opinion here, I can just sit back return fire and point out what you doing and why it is pointless and stupid.

It can go on forever if you want it to. It doesn't matter to me. I don't hate others because they have a different opinions. I'm only a being nasty toward you because you called me an idiot and have since doubled down on it hard. I even gave you a pass on the first insinuation in the interest of keeping the peace.

Anybody can go back and read all of this and decide which of us is right or wrong, and since you aren't making an effective argument related to the political component to back up your own viewpoint, there is a strong possibility that you end up looking like an even bigger asshole then me, which surely isn't your goal, although it certainly could be.

Whatever you want to do, though. It doesn't matter to me.
You distorted and mischaracterized what people have said to you continuously and even now continue to do so. The first part of your post ("labelling anyone you disagree with as evil") continues this pattern and for that reason I am choosing to ignore it.

Likewise, I'm ignoring your armchair diagnosis; it's based on falsehood, and misrepresentation; hardly a sturdy foundation for an assessment -more like a foundation made of sand, as Our Lord Jesus Christ has said

24 “Therefore everyone who hears these words of mine and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25 The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house; yet it did not fall, because it had its foundation on the rock. 26 But everyone who hears these words of mine and does not put them into practice is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. 27 The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell with a great crash.”
As far as looking like an asshole goes? I'm here to amuse myself, so I don't honestly give a shit how I look. People on this board have known me for 14 years, the ones who like me -like me; the ones who don't -never will. Both groups have seen me be a far, far bigger asshole than I've been in this thread. Nothing I post here is likely to change any opinions.