Social Media and the state

[WeFlossDaily]

I'm not here to be 'liked'.

I believe you.

Truth be told I am rarely here to 'debate' (considering the way some go about it).

There is something wrong with these fucking people.

I am here to lodge the occasional observation, share how my life is going and maybe react to a post or two. That's usually it.

That's sort of boring, isn't it?

In an instance such as this however, I'll gladly be the absolute bitch and do exactly as I have been doing prior: Amalgamating together the attitude being observed, ramp it up to eleven and then send it right back to you.

You already tried to tell me I couldn't talk shit back to Monica after she insulted me. This is called a double standard.

Monica reacted to what you were saying and made an observation - and lodged her personal opinion as well - based on what you said and how you said it. And she is not the only one here you've done that to.

This is gaslighting. You and Monica, now. Yes, the lot of you are acting like a hivemind that can dish out insults and then you freak out when they are given back to you. I'm not doing anything you aren't. Insult me, earn and insult. Act like a stupid piece of shit and you will be treated like one.

Frankly you come across as way too wound up at best and from where I sit it rather feels like you're looking for excuses to lash out.

I just giving it back to them how they are giving it to me. If you can't see that. I don't care. It's all here. Consider it or don't. Doesn't matter.

Could be wrong on that one and if so ... Well it's how you're coming across.

You are. Read the thread if you want to. A few pages ago me and Monica talked about Alaska. She didn't really seem like or agreed with my viewpoint. But she wasn't insulting. She just disagreed. Today she want's to be insulting. So fuck her. Read back as far as you want. Or don't. It doesn't matter. The problem starts with me talking about free speech, which is something these people apparently don't like because of one-sided political reasons. Blah, blah, blah. See if you can find the moment me and Innula's disagreement went south if you want. Igen, it doesn't really matter.

 

[WeFlossDaily]

^^Bear in mind I wrote this not for you but for the benefit of other folks reading the thread. You're a lost cause -I have no illusions about your looking for a reason to lash out. I'm willing to cater to your persecution complex to the degree that I'm entertained -but seriously?

I wrote what I wrote as a clue to folks who may be trying to pinpoint exactly wtf is wrong with you.

It's still gaslighting. There's no reason to act like a stupid cunt about it.

 

[WeFlossDaily]

Gaslighting is another reason to flame somebody, lol.

Call somebody and idiot and then try to say you didn't Monica Dream

There's nothing wrong with me. You're being a bitch and I'm calling you on it.

 

[Monica Dream]

Gaslighting is another reason to flame somebody, lol.

Call somebody and idiot and then try to say you didn't Monica Dream

There's nothing wrong with me. You're being a bitch and I'm calling you on it.

That's nice, dear.

 

[WeFlossDaily]

That's nice, dear.

It should be a crime to be your kind of stupid. It's a shame that it isn't.

 

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

Find a strategy that keeps you sane.

I fucked off and decorated a skybox in a mix of Parisian and cyberpunk. Came back two hours later so only two more pages? I miss SLU.

 

[Soen Eber]

I fucked off and decorated a skybox in a mix of Parisian and cyberpunk. Came back two hours later so only two more pages? I miss SLU.

It's a dance anyways. I'll be in the concession tent.

 

[WeFlossDaily]

Most of them give up. They harbor a narrow-minded perspective they don't understand and can barely articulate and then get angry when they encounter anything that isn't exactly in line with that they believe. It's a very emotional and non-rational response. Usually, before they give up, they pile on insults, or they just start there, cause they have no idea how to even try to discuss their viewpoint. They just know yours is wrong and that you need to eat shit and die because it's not the same as theirs. Then they get fucking madder than shit when you fire back at them with insult in retaliation.

This is why I think both sides of the political spectrum are wrong, cause ignorant people on both sides act like this, and on both sides they advocate for hatred of the other side. Neither side takes responsibility for their own failures and fuck ups but they will sure as hell tell you about how the other side is responsible for everything that is wrong. Different talking points. Same bullshit. Same method of attack. It's all fascist polarized bullshit with both sides competing to become the only possible political party to vote for.

Don't like this point of view, great. Insult me and get insulted right back.

The 'nu-uh, my side is not bad and the other side is evil and Flossy you are just a stupid piece of shit' line of attack only serves to prove my point.

Play stupid games. Win stupid prizes.

 

[Spirits Rising]

What you appear to be missing is that the 'both sides' argument is often the tool of those who are by far, much much worse as such people pretend to be all for 'freedom' ... and are really for their personal brand of authoritarian (or worse, pure Anarchist bullshit).

There is a distinct difference between pointing out failings and pretty much just throwing your hands in the air and saying 'both sides suck and are the exact same'.

One side clearly wants me dead. Clearly, actively wants me dead. The other major party is - at minimum, at present - tolerant of me and (rather importantly) is not actively wishing for my death (at best, at worst actively seeking excuses to kill anyone like me).

So yes, you're going to get rather strong reactions, be it from me or anyone else in the same boat.

And here's the fucking kicker - if the boat is rocked too much or the whole thing is dismantled/dragged crashing down, I and those like me are absolutely fucked. Often with no fucking resources, nowhere we can flee to (which takes resources) and left to fucking die horribly.

All while the majority of those saying 'both sides are the problem' or 'both sides suck' or even 'both sides care only about remaining in power' .... Well the majority of such people have shown themselves to be selfish, evil (yes evil) and self-serving wastes of protoplasm.

 

[Soen Eber]

Most of them give up. They harbor a narrow-minded perspective they don't understand and can barely articulate and then get angry when they encounter anything that isn't exactly in line with that they believe. It's a very emotional and non-rational response. Usually, before they give up, they pile on insults, or they just start there, cause they have no idea how to even try to discuss their viewpoint. They just know yours is wrong and that you need to eat shit and die because it's not the same as theirs. Then they get fucking madder than shit when you fire back at them with insult in retaliation.

This is why I think both sides of the political spectrum are wrong, cause ignorant people on both sides act like this, and on both sides they advocate for hatred of the other side. Neither side takes responsibility for their own failures and fuck ups but they will sure as hell tell you about how the other side is responsible for everything that is wrong. Different talking points. Same bullshit. Same method of attack. It's all fascist polarized bullshit with both sides competing to become the only possible political party to vote for.

Don't like this point of view, great. Insult me and get insulted right back.

The 'nu-uh, my side is not bad and the other side is evil and Flossy you are just a stupid piece of shit' line of attack only serves to prove my point.

Play stupid games. Win stupid prizes.

I could almost agree with this, but one side still has a soul, well, parts of one. Another 10-20 years at this rate and they'll both be the same.

 

[Monica Dream]

Most people don't give up because you're right; most people give up because they realize that you're not responding to what they write and they (rightly) see that they're talking to a wall.

They're not interested in stupid prizes, so they're not playing your game.

 

[Monica Dream]

What you appear to be missing is that the 'both sides' argument is often the tool of those who are by far, much much worse as such people pretend to be all for 'freedom' ... and are really for their personal brand of authoritarian (or worse, pure Anarchist bullshit).

There is a distinct difference between pointing out failings and pretty much just throwing your hands in the air and saying 'both sides suck and are the exact same'.

One side clearly wants me dead. Clearly, actively wants me dead. The other major party is - at minimum, at present - tolerant of me and (rather importantly) is not actively wishing for my death (at best, at worst actively seeking excuses to kill anyone like me).

So yes, you're going to get rather strong reactions, be it from me or anyone else in the same boat.

And here's the fucking kicker - if the boat is rocked too much or the whole thing is dismantled/dragged crashing down, I and those like me are absolutely fucked. Often with no fucking resources, nowhere we can flee to (which takes resources) and left to fucking die horribly.

All while the majority of those saying 'both sides are the problem' or 'both sides suck' or even 'both sides care only about remaining in power' ....

I made this point already and she simply reverted to "nuh-uh both sides are mean to each other"

In short, plugged her ears and went can't hear you can't hear you

She knows, she doesn't give a fuck about the actual practical impact of GOP policies. So -for that reason alone; fuck her.

 

[Free]

Arguing on the internet about how to argue on the internet. It's so...beautiful.

 

[Monica Dream]

Arguing on the internet about how to argue on the internet. It's so...beautiful.

I work with what I got?

 

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

Arguing on the internet about how to argue on the internet. It's so...beautiful.

Zuck stole the word for this.

 

[WeFlossDaily]

What you appear to be missing is that the 'both sides' argument is often the tool of those who are by far, much much worse as such people pretend to be all for 'freedom' ... and are really for their personal brand of authoritarian (or worse, pure Anarchist bullshit).

I'm not advocating for or my own personal brand of authoritarian or anarchist bullshit. I don't have a good solution for the problem.

There is a distinct difference between pointing out failings and pretty much just throwing your hands in the air and saying 'both sides suck and are the exact same'.

Neither side is taking responsibility for their failures and is attempting to blame the other. That would be putting it into the simplest terms. The rich get richer and the poor get poorer. I could go on and on like this. Or I could go into extreme detail, but do you really want me to rant about how America isn't doing enough to support Ukraine from now until you are willing to go to any lengths to just make me shut up.

One side clearly wants me dead. Clearly, actively wants me dead. The other major party is - at minimum, at present - tolerant of me and (rather importantly) is not actively wishing for my death (at best, at worst actively seeking excuses to kill anyone like me).

I don't believe this is true. Or, lets say, can I politely disagree without being thrown into a pit of snakes. I don't think either side is as bad as putin or hilter.

So yes, you're going to get rather strong reactions, be it from me or anyone else in the same boat.

I guess so. My mistake was not understanding how the Brittan/Twitter issues was rooted more in political ideology than anything else. Hence, I stumbled into a shit pit. Everybody of course is like yo there's a goblin in the shit pit. All I can do is throw my hands up and say fuck it. Yep, the reactions are extremely strong and often foul. My fault though for stumbling in and sharing an opinion. I guess if I thought one side wanted me dead I'd automatically just vote for the other, though. I don't believe either side wants me dead, though. So it's difficult put myself in your shoes here.

And here's the fucking kicker

okej.

- if the boat is rocked too much or the whole thing is dismantled/dragged crashing down,

Revolutions have been known to happen throughout history.

I and those like me are absolutely fucked. Often with no fucking resources, nowhere we can flee to (which takes resources) and left to fucking die horribly.

Everybody would be sort of fucked. Often entire systems break dow when that kind of stuff happens. But this isn't russia or Yuggoslavia. There need not be a violent collapse in the future. My only possible solution to the problem is to split like the Czechs did sometime in the next hundred years after we are all dead and the geopolitical situation has undergone some massive changes. Probably for now everything will stay exactly the same. I'd be scared of revolution also. But at the same time I wouldn't want to stop it. Not if it meant that people could live in hate-free societies. The current polarized situation just isn't working and offers no good solution. No way out. We are trapped by it. Germany and much of Europe is just as bad, if not worse right now. There are problems everywhere.

All while the majority of those saying 'both sides are the problem' or 'both sides suck' or even 'both sides care only about remaining in power' ....

My opinion doesn't seem very popular, certainly it can't be gaining ground with anybody anywhere.

 

[WeFlossDaily]

Most people don't give up because you're right; most people give up because they realize that you're not responding to what they write and they (rightly) see that they're talking to a wall.

They're not interested in stupid prizes, so they're not playing your game.

You played and lost. Here's your bag of dicks.

 

[Jopsy Pendragon]

I'm not going to address this nicely if you are going to yell about it. I didn't vote for Trump.

Neither do I, as I consider the system broken and refuse to directly take part out of protest.

"Every accusation is a confession." -- a popular comment on The Left about the relentless projection coming from The Right.

I'm sorry you fell for their bullshit. Both sides are not 'just as bad'. Political strategy think tanks like The Heritage Foundation WANT you to believe 'both sides are just as bad' if you're not on their candidate's side. They WANT you to throw away your vote so they can run weaker candidates against less opposition. And you fell for it.

I'm sure you feel otherwise, but since you can't be bothered to vote, why should I care? You don't have enough integrity to form an opinion in a way that makes it matter. So why bother? Attention? Well you got that. Maybe not the kind you were hoping for, but ... surprise ... you're not going to find a lot of sympathy here for people who just sit on the sidelines muttering "Don't blame me for this, I didn't vote!"

This election was pretty damned clear. Project 2025 got a lot of coverage, it has some heinously awful things in it. They WANTED you to believe that it was all B.S. and political theater, so you wouldn't take it seriously. And they wanted those that got -excited- to see those horrible policies passed to be energized into voting and donating to make them happen. Trump feigned ignorance (probably true, he's a lazy idiot who probably doesn't get past the cover sheet of anything handed to him), but people in his former administration were all over it. If you can't tell which party IS WORSE by now it's because you, like him are too lazy to make the effort to see through the BS peddled by the media they pay for.

The economy has been recovering well from the pandemic, inflation has tapered off, gas prices are back to what they were, unemployment is low, people have moderately affordable health coverage (a problem that's never been adequately resolved but it's better than nothing), we still have social security and a functioning post office. Let's come back and revisit this in 2 years and see where we're at?

I can tell you right now that the threat of mass deportations is going to cause massive inflation in food, entertainment, hotels, construction, transportation, elder care... it's going to leave emergency services under staffed, its going to drive up healthcare costs. Trumps 'outlines of a plan' for healthcare will be to repeal the ACA, and with people cancelling plans, the premiums for everyone else will skyrocket. Home building will slow, stores and restaurants will close, unemployment will increase... if even a third of project 2025 gets implemented austerity is going to drive us straight into a depression. We have an idiot at the helm and we're heading towards icebergs.

But, maybe you'll be lucky out there in your beautiful wild remote Alaska, sucking down our unearned federal tax dollars. Or maybe not, when Department of Government Efficiency Czar Elon Musk decides that Alaska doesn't help him sell his shoddy electric cars, so he cuts your funding.

Who knows what'll happen. All I can say is that I'm disappointed in you for not voting... and why should I give a damn about any of your political opinions if you don't respect your own opinions enough to make them count. You chose to not be counted. You're irrelevant.

 

[WeFlossDaily]

She knows, she doesn't give a fuck about the actual practical impact of GOP policies. So -for that reason alone; fuck her.

This is what I'm talking about. Unbridled and relentless hatred for anything that isn't what you have been told to believe.

See, I am less then human for having a different opinion. You as bad as the bigots you are whining about.

 

[Spirits Rising]

You may not believe it is as bad as I have stated ... but guess what? It is.

Their leaders? On record, pushing violent, divisive rhetoric against people like me. Their followers? Look around you and tell me that it's just meaningless words.

I've been fucking lucky as hell to be at a stage where I still flocking pass in both directions. and lucky as hell that I have not run into one of the more violently opposed jackasses.

Fuck sake I moved into a more out of the way area so I'd have a somewhat better buffer to keep my ass safer. I left a suburban environment wherein damn near everything was within less than a mile from my apartment to try and be a bit safer.

Do not fucking tell me that there are not people out there that actively want my ass dead for the oh so horrible crime of being Trans. Fuck there's a part of me that actually is starting to understand why one of my formerly closest friends in the area has started to go more militant in her mindset and is so fucking distrusting of people in general (let alone Cis people).

What is happening to Ukraine is fucking horrible .... sacrificing a segment of the population because neither side gave them enough attention or aid (in your opinion/estimation) is absolutely horrible as well.

And yes, I am aware you did not say as much - it is what it feels like however.

Do you know the biggest problem with revolutions? Putting aside how often they end up being bloody, messy mistakes - they can often end up with people unrelated to the issues being caught up in them and harmed (or killed/executed) and can more often than not end with an even worse set of leaders.

I'll take the slower road.

I'll take the (to you) lackluster, lukewarm party whose rank and file do not want me dead and I'll take slow progress over no progress or sprinting in the opposite direction.