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Yesterday there was a shooting spree in Germany that killed 10 people and wounded several more. Nine of those victims were patrons at two separate shisha (hookah) bars in the city of Hanau, which are said to have served primarily Kurdish clientele. The gunman knocked on the door of the first establishment and shot into it when the door was opened, then fled the scene traveling to the second bar, doing the same thing there. Police searched for the suspect for several hours before finding him dead in his apartment, along with the body of his mother.

At this point the German authorities are treating the event as a far-right terrorist attack, with local media saying that a written confession and an online video have been found in which the man espouses "xenophobic" views.
 

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I'm sleepy and a bit tipsy. His two messages seem pretty consistent to me. What did I miss?
He’s flashing his Imperialist badge there. Here’s one of the actual tweets, check some of the replies on how terrifying it looks to people outside the USA.


He could have made that look a lot less like a Freudian slip. :D (Another reason why diplomacy skills matter.)
 

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Meh. Hey look, when you join the military, you go where they send you. He got sent to the Afghanistan theatre, which is really all he means when he talks about "carrying a weapon around a foreign country". I don't like the idea of someone who got sent to Afghanistan when they were in the military being forever condemned about being an "imperialist" for that; I think he's making a perfectly valid point about military-style weaponry being in the hands of civilians in the US.
 

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The neat thing about privilege is that it's basically invisible to the people with it. White privilege, check, male privilege, got that too. One thing I don't got is a level above that, that is United States citizen privilege, aka American exceptionalism. It gets really visible around US election times when from right across the political spectrum there are panicked cries of "If X wins I'm moving to Canada!" Yeah, nah, stay there and work on it. Especially don't leave all them nukes entirely in the hands of a doomsday cult. It's great being a US Ally and all, but we've seen just how transient and whimsical that can be over the last 20 years.

Internally, his point is valid, and he made his point in such a way it looks to an outsider that outsiders are fair game. In the wake of the mountain of lies that led to that obscene conflagration in Iraq, and with the long history of US meddling and overthrowing whole governments in the name of US corporate interests, that sort of a casual attitude from a presidential candidate is almost as scary as the current guy. By all means he can speak out against heavy weapons in civilian life. It's the trotting out his military service abroad (deeply weird military fetishization, but hey, 'Merica) calls out "Hey, leave us foreigners the fuck out of this." Especially while there's a whole lotta dronin' goin' on.

The above is all Good Information on Outside Perspective. :D

(Diplomatic skills still matter and are especially important in a President.)
 

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Well okay, but it seems to me like the only alternative then is historical revisionism - if you were ever in the military, and were made to go to a foreign country as part of that service, you can never mention that part of your life as a political candidate even in the context of a domestic issue like gun control because it makes you a proud imperialist.

It doesn't make sense to me because we waste no time condemning Donald Trump for his mistreatment of American military veterans when they do or say something that doesn't wax his knob.
 

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Well okay, but it seems to me like the only alternative then is historical revisionism - if you were ever in the military, and were made to go to a foreign country as part of that service, you can never mention that part of your life as a political candidate even in the context of a domestic issue like gun control because it makes you a proud imperialist.
If US domestic issues can be addressed without roping in the victims of a century plus of western military adventurism, that would be preferable, yeah. :D

(To reiterate, deep respect to Dakota for engaging seriously in the topic.)
 
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