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Well the opinion column itself is antisemitism that thinks its camouflaging itself by stereotyping a trait most would consider positive. But the column was written by Bret Stephens, so no surprise there, and in the column he cites a "study" by a known homophobic eugenicist, so there's that.
 

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Well the opinion column itself is antisemitism that thinks its camouflaging itself by stereotyping a trait most would consider positive. But the column was written by Bret Stephens, so no surprise there, and in the column he cites a "study" by a known homophobic eugenicist, so there's that.
Coincidentally, I have just finished reading the excellent Superior: The Return of Race Science by Angela Saini, which explains at some length why "race science" (of which the column is an example) is unscientific and dangerous bunkum:


And an article on the topic by Saini herself:

 

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Well the opinion column itself is antisemitism that thinks its camouflaging itself by stereotyping a trait most would consider positive. But the column was written by Bret Stephens, so no surprise there, and in the column he cites a "study" by a known homophobic eugenicist, so there's that.
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Bret Stephens said:
"Where their advantage more often lies is in thinking different,"
Corrected that for that poor undereducated Murrican Bret. :kittyball: If the Ashkenazim have any advantage over average Murricans it is behavioural, not genetic. Judaism is a book religion. Male Jews are tought from childhood on to read and interpret the holy scripture - in short they are tought using their brains. In the past this has lead to an average higher education level compared to their contemporaries which the average population only recently managed to catch up to thanks to public schooling. It propably holds true for the Sephardim as well, but we don't notice. The Ashkenazim have all those Nobel price winners while the Sephardim have not, but what is the reason behind this? Actually it is quite simple: The Ashkenazim just were lucky enough to live embedded in Western European/Slavic cultures which happened to have all the 1st tier academic institutes in the last 200 of years or so.

I just spewed out those lines without looking up anything on the topic. Why? Because those few silly reasons the author might have missed instantly crossed my mind. The reason I was able to do so is called education* and is essentially the same thing I suspect to be the only benefit the Ashkenazim had.

*spelled E D U C A T I O N; Look it up, Bret! It is a pretty convenient thing to have and you could try asking your political representative to make it available for your folks as well.
 
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Corrected that for that poor undereducated Murrican Bret. :kittyball: If the Ashkenazim have any advantage over average Murricans it is behavioural, not genetic. Judaism is a book religion. Male Jews are tought from childhood on to read and interpret the holy scripture - in short they are tought using their brains.
Hypothetically, religious Jews also selected for reading ability. If you were unable to stand up and read your portion of the Torah when you came of age (13), you weren't a man, and thus not able to start a family. I'm not aware if anyone has actually studied this to see if there is a genetic component to reading ability vs. social encouragement.
 
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Corrected that for that poor undereducated Murrican Bret. :kittyball: If the Ashkenazim have any advantage over average Murricans it is behavioural, not genetic. Judaism is a book religion. Male Jews are tought from childhood on to read and interpret the holy scripture - in short they are tought using their brains. In the past this has lead to an average higher education level compared to their contemporaries which the average population only recently managed to catch up to thanks to public schooling. It propably holds true for the Sephardim as well, but we don't notice. The Ashkenazim have all those Nobel price winners while the Sephardim have not, but what is the reason behind this? Actually it is quite simple: The Ashkenazim just were lucky enough to live embedded in Western European/Slavic cultures which happened to have all the 1st tier academic institues in the last 200 of years or so.

I just spewed out those lines without looking up anything on the topic. Why? Because those few silly reasons the author might have missed instantly crossed my mind. The reason I was able to do so is called education* and is essentially the same thing I suspect to be the only benefit the Ashkenazim had.

*spelled E D U C A T I O N; Look it up, Bret! It is a pretty convenient thing to have and you could try asking your political representative to make it available for your folks as well.
Not just males, at least for Reform Jews, as evidenced not just by my family's views but that there are female rabbis and cantors. Conservative Judaism, too ( I don't know as much about where the Orthodox stand on women and education; probably not as important as for men, but not, forbidden, afaik).
 
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He had it coming...
Whatever was he thinking of?

I've known since my college days, back when Eysenck and Jensen were writing about race and IQ, how dubious are the scientific bases of both concepts, simply because I read round subjects I find interesting, and some 40 or 50 years later, now we know so much more about genetics, anything resembling racial science and eugenics looks even more dubious.
 

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Are they honestly expecting women to shell out a grand apiece and actually attend this trainwreck?
The article doesn’t say whether anyone’s bought tickets. I suppose if there are some well-to-do Oath Keepers or Quiverfull guys they might insist their wives go. 🤷🏻‍♀️
 

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Are they honestly expecting women to shell out a grand apiece and actually attend this trainwreck?
It's gotta be a joke. I don't know anyone who would shell out that kind of money for a con of any description. Plus "mansplaining event of the century." Really? It's just gotta be a joke.
 
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It's gotta be a joke. I don't know anyone who would shell out that kind of money for a con of any description. Plus "mansplaining event of the century." Really? It's just gotta be a joke.
I see you have never been to Florida.