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[Cristiano]

 

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

I don't know Death Wish coffee. I'm more into trying out different blends of Columbian, or Kenyan, or Peruvian or whatever. Good Peruvian is pretty mellow (it really sounds as if I'm talking about a rather stronger stimulant, doesn't it?).

Former Gran Columbia, Venezuela through Equador, and Peru do a very smooth and non acidic coffee. My favourite way of taking it was introduced to me in Venezuela. Half very strong blond roast coffee made in an ordinary filter coffee maker and half hot full fat milk. (Cafe con leche.) The waiters in restaurants would walk around with a pot of coffee in one hand and a pot of hot milk in the other. Just point to your cup and they pour.

 

[Cristiano]

Coming or going, Meghan gets the blame -- and it's because of her race

Suddenly, the message for the Duchess of Sussex has changed from "Why are you here?" to "Where do you think you're going?" And again, some observers think racism is partly to blame.

www.cnn.com

 

[Spirits Rising]

On the coffee bit: I'd prefer a nice, full sized coffee maker but my roomies have been reluctant to swap away from the Keurig and My K-Cup combination. Gads it irritates me to hear some of the excuses for not swapping as well as making a carafe (five cup max), taking "a" cup (I use a 15oz plus mug) then coming back to find it's been emptied by someone else - worse if it gets made and I step away for a moment, only to come back and find the carafe empty.

We tend to use the cheap, Folger's light roast you can get at Sam's Club.

When I can/remember to get it, I tend to gravitate to the Whole Foods blend of Allegro Coffee - a mixed (Light/Dark) roast blend. so far it is the only coffee I can actually drink without some form of creamer and sugar.

Argent, I've always wanted to try Death Wish, thanks to the higher caffeine content. Sadly, i think that might just be a bad idea for me these days ... being on BP meds and all. Heck, I have had to cut down on my coffee in general thanks to that.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

Coming or going, Meghan gets the blame -- and it's because of her race

Suddenly, the message for the Duchess of Sussex has changed from "Why are you here?" to "Where do you think you're going?" And again, some observers think racism is partly to blame.

www.cnn.com

I wholly agree that racism plays a large part in the media antipathy towards Meghan. This incident, for example, prompted me to send quite a lengthy email of support to the lecturer, since I was so angry at the way Laurence Fox behaved

Lecturer says she faced online abuse after Question Time clash with Laurence Fox

Rachel Boyle described the actor as a ‘white privileged male’ in row over media coverage of Duchess of Sussex

www.theguardian.com

However, there is another reason, too, it seems, why elements of the media don't like the couple:

There’s a reason why the royals are demonised. But you won’t read all about it | Alan Rusbridger

Who really knows what is going on with Harry and Meghan? But we can be sure the storytellers, the press, are hardly disinterested observers

www.theguardian.com

 

[Argent Stonecutter]

ETA 2: I found this review of Death Wish -- he comments on how mellow it is, too, though overall he seems to think it's a bit of a gimmick. Deathwish Coffee Review

It may be a gimmick but that gimmick let me talk my boss into buying it for the company so we're not stuck with Starbucks Burnt Roast in the lunchroom.

I have had co-workers comment that it's good but they can't take the caffeine. Haven't done formal double-blind tests except for "whoops forgot to label this carafe" which probably won't pass peer review.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

It may be a gimmick but that gimmick let me talk my boss into buying it for the company so we're not stuck with Starbucks Burnt Roast in the lunchroom.

I have had co-workers comment that it's good but they can't take the caffeine. Haven't done formal double-blind tests except for "whoops forgot to label this carafe" which probably won't pass peer review.

I think that's his point, though -- that you should drink it because it tastes good, not because it contains so much caffeine.

 

[Katheryne Helendale]

I think that's his point, though -- that you should drink it because it tastes good, not because it contains so much caffeine.

I'm looking for a smooth, mellow coffee that has just the right amount of caffeine - not so much that it makes me feel I'm going to have an out-of-body experience. I prefer light to medium roasts.

I've taken a liking to a couple of Hawaiian coffees that come in K-cups and don't cost very much. But they don't have much, if any, actual Kona beans in them. Kona, unfortunately, is prohibitively expensive.

 

[Argent Stonecutter]

If you switch to a cone filter you can make whatever blend you want.

I think that's his point, though -- that you should drink it because it tastes good, not because it contains so much caffeine.

I'm ADHD and I'm self-medicating with caffeine, so he's wrong, that's a perfectly legitimate reason to drink it.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

If you switch to a cone filter you can make whatever blend you want.


I'm ADHD and I'm self-medicating with caffeine, so he's wrong, that's a perfectly legitimate reason to drink it.

It's a perfectly good reason to drink it, but it's not a great marketing line since it draws attention to a feature of the coffee that will be of particular interest to only a small section of the whole target market, because the number of people whose decisions about which coffee to buy are influenced primarily for the taste must surely be considerably larger than the number of people who are influenced by the high caffeine content.

Indeed, according to the review to which I linked, the strength of the blend, while certainly high, is nothing unusual, since it's only slightly stronger than two separate popular blends here, available in most major supermarkets as premium brands.

Under those circumstances, I'd be pushing both the strength and the taste, but emphasising how good it tastes and how enjoyable it is to drink rather than how strong it is..

 

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

 

[Dakota Tebaldi]

 

[Argent Stonecutter]

It's a perfectly good reason to drink it, but it's not a great marketing line since it draws attention to a feature of the coffee that will be of particular interest to only a small section of the whole target market, because the number of people whose decisions about which coffee to buy are influenced primarily for the taste must surely be considerably larger than the number of people who are influenced by the high caffeine content.

You would have a decent argument there except Starbucks has a hugely successful business selling over-roasted and just plain burnt coffee.

Indeed, according to the review to which I linked, the strength of the blend, while certainly high, is nothing unusual, since it's only slightly stronger than two separate popular blends here, available in most major supermarkets as premium brands.

I didn't see anything in that review where they compared or even measured the caffeine content. What's the caffeine content of those two Lavazza blends?

 

[Innula Zenovka]

You would have a decent argument there except Starbucks has a hugely successful business selling over-roasted and just plain burnt coffee.

But that's not their selling point -- they seem to position themselves as being a fashionable place to drink coffee with lots of fancy flavours and toppings. Since I want to taste the coffee rather than flavourings, I've never actually used a Starbucks in my life, not because I deliberately avoid them but because I find two of their main, and equally ubiquitous, rivals here -- Caffe Nero and Costa Coffee -- sell perfectly reasonable coffee and are less expensive, so I use them if I'm not using my regular independent place.

I didn't see anything in that review where they compared or even measured the caffeine content. What's the caffeine content of those two Lavazza blends?

I took

That's not saying we didn't realise that this thing is strong - strong enough to take on Geoff Capes before he took to budgerigar fancying - but it hides it well. It's right up there with the Hot Lava Java and Lavazza Espresso.

to mean that they're comparable.

I couldn't find any definitive figures for those two brands, not that I looked for very long, but I did find this, which suggests that, while Death Wish is strong, it isn't, or maybe isn't any longer, the strongest available coffee by any means

Top 20 Most Caffeinated Coffees

A comprehensive list of coffee drinks with the highest levels of caffeine sorted by milligram per fluid ounce. Updated daily.

www.caffeineinformer.com

 

[Maggy Hazelnut]

I've taken a liking to a couple of Hawaiian coffees that come in K-cups and don't cost very much. But they don't have much, if any, actual Kona beans in them. Kona, unfortunately, is prohibitively expensive.

I LOVE Kona coffee! But good luck finding it outside of Hawaii. Oh yes, you can get coffee labeled Kona but good luck tasting any Kona in it. And what you do find is very expensive. I swear I think there's a secret law that prohibits it being sent off island. lol I spent a week staying in Kona for my son's wedding & my hotel had only Kona coffee. By the second cup I was ready to do anything necessary to get more. Before I left I stuffed packages of it in my suitcase & dumped a few things out to make room. Kona coffee = crack coffee!

 

[Aeon Jiminy]

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[Argent Stonecutter]

But that's not their selling point -- they seem to position themselves as being a fashionable place to drink coffee with lots of fancy flavours and toppings.

The point is there's a huge market that doesn't give a damn about the taste, so advertising something else is perfectly rational.

I took to mean that they're comparable.

Unless they measured the caffeine they have no basis to claim they're comparable.

Top 20 Most Caffeinated Coffees

It's still twice as strong as the strongest coffee in that list that isn't advertising it's strength in the name, 3x stronger than the first name I recognize, and 6x stronger than the Starbucks entry. Whether you can get coffee that's about twice as strong doesn't change the fact that it's 150% your recommended maximum daily dose of caffeine in one cup. I think that counts as "high in caffeine".

Also, mg/floz is a heck of a mongrel measurement.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

The point is there's a huge market that doesn't give a damn about the taste, so advertising something else is perfectly rational.

I dunno. I would say, rather, there's a huge market that doesn't know what coffee is supposed to taste like. I wouldn't say that Starbucks don't sell on taste -- why else do they make such a selling-point out of the expensive flavourings they offer? I've seen all sorts of Starbucks adverts emphasising their different flavourings and toppings, but I don't recall seeing any that try to sell their coffees on the basis of their strength.

Unless they measured the caffeine they have no basis to claim they're comparable.

It's still twice as strong as the strongest coffee in that list that isn't advertising it's strength in the name, 3x stronger than the first name I recognize, and 6x stronger than the Starbucks entry. Whether you can get coffee that's about twice as strong doesn't change the fact that it's 150% your recommended maximum daily dose of caffeine in one cup. I think that counts as "high in caffeine".

Also, mg/floz is a heck of a mongrel measurement.

Be that as it may, Death Wish's claim to be the world's strongest coffee clearly seems to be unfounded, and thus simply a piece of marketing hype, since if I want to buy really strong coffee, there appear to be several blends that are considerably stronger than Death Wish from which to choose on Amazon.

 

[Argent Stonecutter]

Be that as it may, Death Wish's claim to be the world's strongest coffee clearly seems to be unfounded, and thus simply a piece of marketing hype

I didn't parrot that claim. It *is* very strong, at the level where having the actual strongest coffee is academic.

I want to buy really strong coffee, there appear to be several blends that are considerably stronger than Death Wish from which to choose on Amazon.

You can buy Death Wish in Walmart.

 

[Isabeau]

I like my coffee in a cup.