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So, your answer is to register and vote Republican, the very party that personifies everything you're railing against? Yeah, that makes perfect sense. :confusedcat:
It's the usual techy-guy "if I don't get what I want I'm gonna break everything" thing, which helped give us the former guy in the first place.

If half the board didn't already have this individual on Ignore, there really would have been a pile-on. :D
Yes. I'm enough of a fool that I do not suffer other fools gladly.
 
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WTF? Am I speaking esporanto here?

I am NOT making a both sides argument! Not at all! I am saying that nobody who has posted since my initial post about the bridge tolling situation knows anything about this situation. You don't even know enough to have espoused a single opinion on the situation, and you don't really seem too interested in doing that, either. You just don't give a shit about what happens in Pennsylvania, which is sad. More than that, though, what you want to talk about is that you just don't like me, personally, which, I think, is a fine stance to have. Lots of people out there don't like me! Maybe you can all get together, and start an anti-fan club or something.

What I'm saying, though, is that while you are hating on me, you need to stop trying to act like you actually have an opinion on something like this, when you clearly don't.
I don't know anything about the politics of Pennsylvania, certainly, so I don't know whether Argent's characterization of the Democrats and the Republicans at the national level is accurate of the situation in Pennsylvania:

Well, yes, because the Democrats are a center-right party that's unlikely to turn the US into a banana republic, and the republicans are a fascist party that has already led to an attempted violent coup. There's no "both sides" here. One side is kind of assholes, and the other are *this* far from actual Nazis (or, in some cases, literally actual Nazis).
How would you characterize the Pennsylvania Republicans' position on voting rights and on abortion, for example?
 

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I don't know anything about the politics of Pennsylvania, certainly, so I don't know whether Argent's characterization of the Democrats and the Republicans at the national level is accurate of the situation in Pennsylvania:



How would you characterize the Pennsylvania Republicans' position on voting rights and on abortion, for example?
Yes, of course, why don't we go off topic, just to run the entire conversation into your narrow little set of pre-conceived notions about how the world works? Forget that the party in PA is having an internal meltdown right now, while Wolf can't stop shoveling more money at his oligarch buddies. The real issues here are all about what Walter Lipmann would call your stereotypes. Poor stereotypes, let me humor them some more, to help you feel smart. You don't need to ask any questions, or do any reading. You can just talk about how this tribe is better than that tribe, because it makes you feel good.

... I don't think so. This is the information age. People need to grow up, and stop playing games.
 

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Those Everfoo people adhere to the tenet that all press is good press. It's an expensive advertisement to strand a ship every twelve months but I guess it works for them. The colour of those benches in the House of Lords is really pretty.
 
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Yes, of course, why don't we go off topic, just to run the entire conversation into your narrow little set of pre-conceived notions about how the world works? Forget that the party in PA is having an internal meltdown right now, while Wolf can't stop shoveling more money at his oligarch buddies. The real issues here are all about what Walter Lipmann would call your stereotypes. Poor stereotypes, let me humor them some more, to help you feel smart. You don't need to ask any questions, or do any reading. You can just talk about how this tribe is better than that tribe, because it makes you feel good.

... I don't think so. This is the information age. People need to grow up, and stop playing games.
Does the Republican Party in Pennsylvania have a position on voting rights or abortion? It may well be that you consider their position on bridge tolls far more important than either of these, of course, but I'm interested to know what, in fact, their position is on these matters, since I know that it varies from state to state.
 

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Also, are you really still trying to sell me on Biden? You are really lack that much self awareness? That fool Biden has been horrible, the whole time he's been in office, from 1804 until today. I...

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Oh, brother.

Other than not pushing a bunch of progressive ideals (it's not his job to write laws), by what metrics has President Biden been "horrible"?
 

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Is the flopping fish supposed to represent Trump?
 
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I think most of us determined long ago -- maybe while you were away -- that that one is just a TFG shill left over from the last election when we had a swarm of 'em. (Most of whom Mysteriously Disappeared after Election Day.)

This one's lame little schtick is frothing ad nauseum in an attempt to foment dissatisfaction with the Democratic Party under the guise of being "like totally super-liberal and progressive. More super-liberal and progressive than you, sheeple."

Probably drives a RAM truck with two Fuck Biden flags and a QAnon sticker in the back window.

*yawns*
I think it still wants revenge for SLu's part in zFire Xue's and RedZone's demises.
 
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After all that... you still have no actual opinion on the issue?

The issue is not me and how I register, vote, or work with various parties! The issue is fraud, red lining, and brutal racism. Nobody seems to care about that, though, do they? Everybody gotta have an opinion on where I draw the line. I'm sure it keeps you up at night, wondering how far is too far for bubblesort? How far can we push him beyond what's ethically acceptable to a normal, well-adjusted human being?

I'm sorry, you seem nice, but this is just going on too long. It's absurd now. People need to be less interested in me and more interested in the issues at hand. If you don't even know who Fetterman is, let alone the smaller players, then you really have no room to question me, about any of this. That's ok, you don't need to have opinions about every little thing that happens in the world.

Maybe the best takeaway for you is that I'm just telling you that the party has some serious issues in Pennsylvania.
Dude. It's a toll bridge. It's not the Second Coming of Hitler. They're all over the US. We even have them here in California. And I understand Pennsylvania is lousy with them. I'm no fan of toll roads and bridges, but I suppose it beats a hike in gas taxes, especially these days. But racism and red-lining? I'm sorry, but I just don't see it.

So, what solution do the PA Republicans have to offer? It must be a damned good one to cause you to want to switch party affiliation, right? :rolleyes:
 
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Seriously, does anybody here have a single opinion on Fetterman?
I'm not from Pennsylvakistan, so no, I don't care about local politics. US politics generally is rural vs urban. Is your state deviating from that trend? If so, its news. If not, its just right vs left as expected.
 

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... I don't think so. This is the information age. People need to grow up, and stop playing games.
Over on reddit, some libertarian kook wanted me to watch a 2h42m YouTube video by some *other* libertarian kook about the *real* causes of the Ukraine war. I felt about doing that as much as I care about local PA politics: not enough to bother with. Get it? We don't care.
 
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Over on reddit, some libertarian kook wanted me to watch a 2h42m YouTube video by some *other* libertarian kook about the *real* causes of the Ukraine war. I felt about doing that as much as I care about local PA politics: not enough to bother with. Get it? We don't care.
Yeah, I get it now. I was hoping somebody might care, in a politics thread. I guess not.

I think it still wants revenge for SLu's part in zFire Xue's and RedZone's demises.
What, exactly, connects me to Red Zone, or zFire?

Also... what does SLU have to do with any of that mess?
 

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What, exactly, connects me to Red Zone, or zFire?

Also... what does SLU have to do with any of that mess?
I remember the whole thing and I remember you coming from the RedZone forum. I was part of it. You were part of it on the fraudster's side of things. You WANTED RedZone.

I don't forget things like that.

I'm the one that called you Bubblesnot.
 
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Does the Republican Party in Pennsylvania have a position on voting rights or abortion? It may well be that you consider their position on bridge tolls far more important than either of these, of course, but I'm interested to know what, in fact, their position is on these matters, since I know that it varies from state to state.
I do not know, because unfortunately, it does not matter what the platform documents say at this point. Those documents have been voilated so many times, they aren't worth the paper they are printed on. Right now we are focused on who is doing what, in the present, because there is no time to rewrite vague directives.

In other words, what matters is that it is a democratic governor and lieutenant governor who are ramming this through, with no regard for democratic processes. They set the start of the obligatory research date right before the holidays, to give people almost no chance to oppose the tolling using the processes the law provides for such opposition. The only people opposing the tolling are Republicans, because the governor is a Democrat. That means that anybody who opposes red lining and tolling must support Republicans. The Democrats are jettisoning their base, in a purple state, at a time when they really shouldn't be doing that.

Also, every single last company on the governor's no bid preferred partner list is an overseas company. If we do not find a way to end this insanity, we will literally have to pay a foreign entity, in order to cross the bridge, to go to our state capitol, because the state claims they are out of money, because the state police stole our bridge maintenance money. This is all happening in a year when we have a record surplus.

This is what everybody who is attacking me is defending. They are either stupid and lazy, or know it's indefensable, which is why they attack me on a personal level.
 

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I remember the whole thing and I remember you coming from the RedZone forum. I was part of it. You were part of it on the fraudster's side of things. You WANTED RedZone.

I don't forget things like that.

I'm the one that called you BubblesNort.
No, absolutely not! That simply did not happen. I want to make clear, that I was never, ever on the red zone forum.

I will say that I have a connection to Red Zone, but not on the side that you think. I will admit that I did more to hurt Zfire than any of you. I will not describe my role in that situation here. It's not just off topic. It's none of your business.