Nobody Cares: PRS

[Lexxi]

Is it people from the UK claiming that? I'll bet it was.

I don't know what it is about the UK but there's people there who are singularly obsessed with finding ways to get genitals or sex acts out of every logo and then criticizing the company for not anticipating that.

Like there was one logo that was basically just the name of the company in plain text, but the name included the letters G and C in sequence and these guys were like "Hurrrrrr if you turn GC sideways it looks like a guy jerking off, what idiot designed this logo".

I'm not sure why you'd think that about the UK.

 

[Jolene Benoir]

No, it is the first time I've said it. I may vote for republicans here and there, in the past, when the democratic party option is indefensable, but I don't throw this registration change threat around casually. I have roots in the local democratic party.

Absolutely not your first time. You toss around voting Republican like it's a threat, like you doing so is going to personally get our goat or something. You've been doing so since 2016. I said, what I said. Anyone voting Republican does not have firmly held beliefs about the nature of equality. Period. You toss it around over the most minor things, showing yourself to be a petulant child who cannot possibly have a grasp of how it feels to have firm beliefs, especially of the nature I am speaking about.

You genuinely have no idea what you are talking about. Not unless you want to support police brutality, in which case... sure! Go ahead, call your support of police brutality democratic. I'll leave you and the rest of the party to do your thing without me.

Completely ridiculous strawman.

So... as a bus driver, you do favor red lining and police brutality. Good to know.

For anybody else here, who is reading this, and more sane than Jolene, with her red lining support: I don't care about how tolls fit in to this or that party platform. I care about who is doing it here and now. I didn't split with my republican family to join the democratic party platform. I did it to join the democrats, who are people, who do things. If they do bad things, I have no reason to be with them.

Excuse me? I said I liked it as in driving in the lane, but hated it as a citizen. Without it, we had the shoulder and people would cut over onto it because they were angry we were allowed to do that. As a citizen I hated it because it is yet another example of the haves and have nots and everything being catered to the haves. Oh, you foolish, foolish person.

I'd quote the rest, but it's just a rant about having to pay for a toll.

 

[Dakota Tebaldi]

STOP IT

 

[Jolene Benoir]

STOP IT

NO

 

[Casey Pelous]

Absolutely not your first time. ...

I think most of us determined long ago -- maybe while you were away -- that that one is just a TFG shill left over from the last election when we had a swarm of 'em. (Most of whom Mysteriously Disappeared after Election Day.)

This one's lame little schtick is frothing ad nauseum in an attempt to foment dissatisfaction with the Democratic Party under the guise of being "like totally super-liberal and progressive. More super-liberal and progressive than you, sheeple."

Probably drives a RAM truck with two Fuck Biden flags and a QAnon sticker in the back window.

*yawns*

 

[Dakota Tebaldi]

NO

NOT YOU

 

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

NO

 

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

I think most of us determined long ago -- maybe while you were away -- that that one is just a TFG shill left over from the last election when we had a swarm of 'em. (Most of whom Mysteriously Disappeared after Election Day.)

This one's lame little schtick is frothing ad nauseum in an attempt to foment dissatisfaction with the Democratic Party under the guise of being "like totally super-liberal and progressive. More super-liberal and progressive than you, sheeple."

Probably drives a RAM truck with two Fuck Biden flags and a QAnon sticker in the back window.

*yawns*

Related aside, Sal’s Twitter is full of useful stuff:

https://twitter.com/salstrange

 

[bubblesort]

I think most of us determined long ago -- maybe while you were away -- that that one is just a TFG shill left over from the last election when we had a swarm of 'em. (Most of whom Mysteriously Disappeared after Election Day.)

This one's lame little schtick is frothing ad nauseum in an attempt to foment dissatisfaction with the Democratic Party under the guise of being "like totally super-liberal and progressive. More super-liberal and progressive than you, sheeple."

Probably drives a RAM truck with two Fuck Biden flags and a QAnon sticker in the back window.

*yawns*

Oh for fuck's sake... Casey, do you ever pop your head up when it's not a bunch of idiots trying to pile on me and failing miserably at it? Also, are you really still trying to sell me on Biden? You are really lack that much self awareness? That fool Biden has been horrible, the whole time he's been in office, from 1804 until today. I was right about everything with Biden, and everybody here damn well knows it. He betrayed you, and he brags about it, to your face. That was just one... single... election, though. Is that one election all you people care about? Are you really that shallow, and uneducated? You just plug in once every 4 years?

This kind of thing is why we have president Manchin.

You may be right, though I probably shouldn't bother trying to discuss real politics with people here. People around here never actually debate the issue at hand with me. They just call me names, over and over, because to them, politics is about name calling, and mud slinging. To be clear, I don't mind name calling one bit! What I object to is people who refuse to contribute actual perspectives, on actual issues, calling me names, just because what I say doesn't make them feel good. If you want to argue that Wolf and Fetterman are great people, then go for it! Call me every name in the book while you do it, I don't care. If you just want to skip the argument portion and go straight to name calling, though... that's lame.

Seriously, does anybody here have a single opinion on Fetterman? No? How about Wolf? How about Perry? DePasquale? Anybody? Bueller? Bueller?

If you don't know these people, it's ok. I don't expect non-Pennsylvanians to know who they are. At the same time, calling me names over my stance regarding people whose names you don't even recognize...that is stupid! There is no world in which your insults make any sense. It's like, if chimpanzee called you ugly, nobody would care, because nobody cares what a chimpanzee thinks is pretty.

OK, back to name recognition: How do you feel about Trump? Oh, we have a feeling there, don't we? He's not in office, though. He's not even a contender in this election! In the end, that's all you care about, though. You don't actually know the policy makers who matter, because you're too disconnected from government to have opinions that matter, to anybody who knows anything. For you, it's all about trying to make the talking heads on the television set say the happy things, and get your twitter feed to give you the good endorphins, isn't it? Politics has to be about bright colors and loud noises, just like an episode of Teletubbies.

You should really read a newspaper from time to time, and I'm not talking about the editorial page. Politics isn't just about big national elections, and it's not about which talking heads you happen to like, or who is dunking on who, 15 minutes ago, on twitter. Politics is not for people with the memory of a goldfish. It's about real events, that have real consequences. If you actually care about things you claim you care about, then maybe you should take it a bit more seriously, or at least stop trying to gaslight people who do.

If anything, you should be thanking me for sounding the alarm on this, rather than just letting the pieces fall where they may. This issue isn't about one single bridge. It's about tolling 8 of the most high traffic bridges in the state, and they are red lining at each and every last one of them. A mass exodus from the party, in a key geographic region like Pennsylvania, is one thing, but a mass exodus that nobody sees coming? That's way more damaging. This is not a single election cycle issue. This is the party committing suicide, state-wide, because an entire generation is going to have to deal with this, forever, when those tolls go in, and the party who puts those toll booths in, is going to permanently glow in the dark for it.

I can see that you would rather not see dissent, though, so maybe I should leave you be, in your weirdo little echo chamber. It's probably more fun to watch you scratch your head and wonder why the party is failing, than it is to explain to you what's really happening with the party, anyway.

 

[Free]

Oh for fuck's sake... Casey, do you ever pop your head up when it's not a bunch of idiots trying to pile on me and failing miserably at it?

Casey is most efficient in the use of her time, and can spot an effective pile on from 10,000 feet.

 

[Arkady Arkright]

Probably drives a RAM truck with two Fuck Biden flags and a QAnon sticker in the back window.

And don't forget the pair of testicles dangling from the tow-hook... (probably the only balls the driver actually possesses).

 

[Jolene Benoir]

I think most of us determined long ago -- maybe while you were away -- that that one is just a TFG shill left over from the last election when we had a swarm of 'em. (Most of whom Mysteriously Disappeared after Election Day.)

This one's lame little schtick is frothing ad nauseum in an attempt to foment dissatisfaction with the Democratic Party under the guise of being "like totally super-liberal and progressive. More super-liberal and progressive than you, sheeple."

Probably drives a RAM truck with two Fuck Biden flags and a QAnon sticker in the back window.

*yawns*

Thanks, Casey. Yeah, I'm sorry. I knew this one was still likely a twit, but had only seen posts in the Linux forum thinking maybe ways had been changed and all that. Dunno what I was thinking. Well, at least until I saw the single most stupid response to a toll road that I could imagine. I also did not realize I was part of a *pile-on*, but also cannot think of a more worthy recipient, though I do believe pile-on in this sense is being misused by someone with a sore ass: someone who invites the exact criticism that he receives then cries pile-on. One might think that is the entire purpose.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

 

[Katheryne Helendale]

No, it is the first time I've said it. I may vote for republicans here and there, in the past, when the democratic party option is indefensable, but I don't throw this registration change threat around casually. I have roots in the local democratic party.



You genuinely have no idea what you are talking about. Not unless you want to support police brutality, in which case... sure! Go ahead, call your support of police brutality democratic. I'll leave you and the rest of the party to do your thing without me.



So... as a bus driver, you do favor red lining and police brutality. Good to know.

For anybody else here, who is reading this, and more sane than Jolene, with her red lining support: I don't care about how tolls fit in to this or that party platform. I care about who is doing it here and now. I didn't split with my republican family to join the democratic party platform. I did it to join the democrats, who are people, who do things. If they do bad things, I have no reason to be with them.

Let me clarify the sequence of events for you:

The PA state legislature set aside money for bridge maintenance.

The PA state police stole that money. That's exactly the wording used by the Eugene DePasquale, the state auditor general, who investigated it. They stole it. That is a hard fact. You can debate the details on this all you like, and even attack DePasquale, to protect the state police if you want, but in the end, when you do that, you are supporting Scott Perry, who is my local congressman, and a theocratic nutjob, and a Jan 6 terrorist collaborator who refuses to testify before congress. DePasquale is the only serious challenger for his seat this cycle.

Governor Wolf, and Lt Governor Fetterman, who are both democrats, they throw up their hands and act like the money just magically disappeared. Stolen? Who would do such a thing? That didn't happen!

Without the money, they say the only way forward is to toll the bridges. That will cost me and my neighbors thousands of dollars a year, and countless hours in traffic, and they will jack the prices through the roof after it goes in. The PA turnpike is the most expensive toll road in the world, because they can't resist jacking prices every chance they get, to hurt the poor. That's not the worst part about this, though. Here's the worst part:

In my area, the bridge in question connects the east shore (Dauphin), and west shore (Cumberland). The east shore is red lined black. The west shore, where I am, is white. This toll between the two areas is clear cut red lining. Dauphin county officials themselves have said that this toll will end economic growth on the east shore.

To summarize: The police stole the money, in order to put in toll booths, in order to brutalize minorities with impunity... and you think it's just some minor little thing that I should just get over? Fuck that. This is the hill I die on.

You might see it as a small thing, because I'm a nobody on an internet board, and that's cool. That's basically the response I got from Fetterman, even when I used better channels to communicate with him. I have no illusions about what people think of me here. Local democrats will be very sad to see me go, though. I'm not a big shot, but I'm definitely part of the machine, and I'm not the only cog who will be rebelling over this. The party is throwing us away like garbage, and we remember things like this. The last time the party leadership behaved like this, George Wallace won a bunch of black neighborhoods in my area. Trump is coming up again, next cycle, so it's a bad time to play this game, but we aren't the ones pushing for racist policy. Party leadership is insisting on fucking around and finding out.

So as far as I'm concerned, Fetterman and Wolf are both bigots. It's no wonder Fetterman shaves his head like he does. He supports skinhead policies.

So, your answer is to register and vote Republican, the very party that personifies everything you're railing against? Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

 

[Beebo Brink]

I also did not realize I was part of a *pile-on*, but also cannot think of a more worthy recipient...

If half the board didn't already have this individual on Ignore, there really would have been a pile-on.

 

[Spirits Rising]

If half the board didn't already have this individual on Ignore, there really would have been a pile-on.

Among some "choice" words that really would have gone a bit far even for the more or less laid back moderation this board has.

Deserved but still likely to be out of bounds.

 

[bubblesort]

So, your answer is to register and vote Republican, the very party that personifies everything you're railing against? Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

After all that... you still have no actual opinion on the issue?

The issue is not me and how I register, vote, or work with various parties! The issue is fraud, red lining, and brutal racism. Nobody seems to care about that, though, do they? Everybody gotta have an opinion on where I draw the line. I'm sure it keeps you up at night, wondering how far is too far for bubblesort? How far can we push him beyond what's ethically acceptable to a normal, well-adjusted human being?

I'm sorry, you seem nice, but this is just going on too long. It's absurd now. People need to be less interested in me and more interested in the issues at hand. If you don't even know who Fetterman is, let alone the smaller players, then you really have no room to question me, about any of this. That's ok, you don't need to have opinions about every little thing that happens in the world.

Maybe the best takeaway for you is that I'm just telling you that the party has some serious issues in Pennsylvania.

 

[bubblesort]

Now that I think about it...

If I changed the words 'democrat' and 'republican' in the original post, in a way that made the democrats in the story republicans, and the republicans in the story democrats, would you be arguing in the other direction? Would it have changed anything, at all?

I think we all know the answer.

 

[Argent Stonecutter]

Well, yes, because the Democrats are a center-right party that's unlikely to turn the US into a banana republic, and the republicans are a fascist party that has already led to an attempted violent coup. There's no "both sides" here. One side is kind of assholes, and the other are *this* far from actual Nazis (or, in some cases, literally actual Nazis).

If you want a progressive party that's actually opposed to racism at a policy level, you need to replace about a dozen major parts of the political and electoral system, so third parties are good for something other than spoilers.

 

[bubblesort]

Well, yes, because the Democrats are a center-right party that's unlikely to turn the US into a banana republic, and the republicans are a fascist party that has already led to an attempted violent coup. There's no "both sides" here. One side is kind of assholes, and the other are *this* far from actual Nazis (or, in some cases, literally actual Nazis).

If you want a progressive party that's actually opposed to racism at a policy level, you need to replace about a dozen major parts of the political and electoral system, so third parties are good for something other than spoilers.

WTF? Am I speaking esporanto here?

I am NOT making a both sides argument! Not at all! I am saying that nobody who has posted since my initial post about the bridge tolling situation knows anything about this situation. You don't even know enough to have espoused a single opinion on the situation, and you don't really seem too interested in doing that, either. You just don't give a shit about what happens in Pennsylvania, which is sad. More than that, though, what you want to talk about is that you just don't like me, personally, which, I think, is a fine stance to have. Lots of people out there don't like me! Maybe you can all get together, and start an anti-fan club or something.

What I'm saying, though, is that while you are hating on me, you need to stop trying to act like you actually have an opinion on something like this, when you clearly don't.