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No contact with the outside world. Then how did he tweet?

 

[Jopsy Pendragon]

More on the Tate brothers' extradition and their links to the Trump administration

59 Charges, One Garden Party: Trump’s Envoy And Best Friend Threw A Soirée For The Tate Brothers Four Days Before The Feds Grabbed Them. Let’s Talk About It Because It's Way Worse Than You Think

The Tate Brothers are in solitary confinement, waiting to be extradited to the UK to face charges ranging from rape to sex/human trafficking to child porn and pedophile charges. Unless Trump steps in.

deanblundell.substack.com

Whodafuq keeps letting that absolute shitstain out of prison?! FFS, at this rate he should've earned 'solitary for life without chance of parole." or something.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

No contact with the outside world. Then how did he tweet?

High profile alleged rapist and possessor of CSAM -- of course he's going to be segregated for his own protection.

Though I can quite understand why his neighbour isn't happy about the situation.

 

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High profile alleged rapist and possessor of CSAM -- of course he's going to be segregated for his own protection.

Yet they obviously gave him access to a computer or a phone.

Though I can quite understand why his neighbour isn't happy about the situation.

I certainly wouldn't want to eat him for dinner. (oh ho, a cannibalism joke!)

 

[Innula Zenovka]

Yet they obviously gave him access to a computer or a phone.



I certainly wouldn't want to eat him for dinner. (oh ho, a cannibalism joke!)

Possibly his lawyer posted it on his behalf. They won't have been able to restrict his communications with his legal representatives.

 

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Possibly his lawyer posted it on his behalf.

Andrew Tate's lawyer: *slithers in his chair* Andrew, we need to discuss your extradition.

Andrew Tate: Sure, sure. But first, log into my Twitter account and post a dozen or so tweets for me. Here's what I want you to write in each, and the images you'll need to add to some of them are the following...

 

[Innula Zenovka]

Andrew Tate's lawyer: *slithers in his chair* Andrew, we need to discuss your extradition.

Andrew Tate: Sure, sure. But first, log into my Twitter account and post a dozen or so tweets for me. Here's what I want you to write in each, and the images you'll need for some of them are the following...

Later: Andrew Tate's lawyer (dictates into billing app)
To instructing secretary to type post to X, per client's instructions: $NNN,
To intern checking and uploading post: $NNN,
To care and attention throughout @x% %NNN

Why it might be game over for Andrew Tate | The Independent (Evernote Link because paywall)

The online reaction to Tate’s arrest feels very different from last year’s. Tate published the requisite “I’m being persecuted for my politics” video, but even for his fans it seems that excuse is getting old. The young men ranting about how he’s been set up are vastly outnumbered by reels mocking Tate’s ankle-exposing trousers, putting him into AI dances, and laughing as “Freakbob” (a Spongebob-inspired influencer) watches awkwardly as the Tates were hand-cuffed and led away. My 14-year-old son says his friends all think the Tates are lame: “no one follows them anymore.”

 

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lol

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[GoblinCampFollower]

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/jesse-watters-fox-women-college-degree-b3020246.html

So.. the headline is clickbait and not QUITE what he said, but what he actually said is just s stupid. If I was going to pretend to be a conservative to try to make them sound dumb as rocks, I don't think I could do a lot better than Jesse Watters. He constantly spews the dumbest shit while acting smug as can be. He always thinks he has such a great point.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

To be fair, I don't think there's much the Tate brothers' lawyers can do for them at this point. Extradition hearings, at least between the US and the UK, are pretty much an exercise in checking the paperwork, and in a case like this there's not much doubt about how it's going to turn out.

Yes there exists an extradition treaty, and yes it covers the alleged offences. Yes, the British authorities have demonstrated probable cause. Yes the Tate brothers will get a fair trial and no, none of their constitutional rights are being infringed.

Unless Marco Rubio is prepared to protect them, and everything the White House is saying at the moment suggests Trump has cut them loose (maybe he realises that protecting alleged sex trafficers and people accused of possessing and creating CSAM, even when they aren't part of the Epstein case, isn't a smart move right now).

And, when the best argument your lawyer can come up with is "my client should not be extradited because he says he didn't do it" , you're in trouble.

His lawyer might as well, under the circumstances, try to keep his client's spirits up by posting stuff on social media for him. There's not much else he can do to help them rght now, and it's all billable, after all.

 

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https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/jesse-watters-fox-women-college-degree-b3020246.html

I'm reading the comments The Independent selected for their article. They sure have an interesting interpretation of what "roasted" means.

 

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To be fair

 

[GoblinCampFollower]

And, when the best argument your lawyer can come up with is "my client should not be extradited because he says he didn't do it" , you're in trouble.

I laughed out loud reading that. ...and yes, I imagine it's quite true.

Unless Marco Rubio is prepared to protect them...

...yeah... that's their ONLY hope, really. Trump might see them as useful, so they may elect to shield them. I hate to say it, but I really think that has more than a 50/50 shot of being the outcome. Tate and his army of sub-humans are useful to Trump. People who hate Tate were mostly not going to vote GOP anyway. That's all that Trump cares about. I think's very likely that Tate will try to talk to Trump and promise to push his fans to praise Trump forevermore if he cuts him a break. Trump has pardoned people for much less.

I hope I'm wrong, but I have very low confidence that key people will do the right thing.

 

[detrius]

I laughed out loud reading that. ...and yes, I imagine it's quite true.

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...yeah... that's their ONLY hope, really. Trump might see them as useful, so they may elect to shield them. I hate to say it, but I really think that has more than a 50/50 shot of being the outcome. Tate and his army of sub-humans are useful to Trump. People who hate Tate were mostly not going to vote GOP anyway. That's all that Trump cares about. I think's very likely that Tate will try to talk to Trump and promise to push his fans to praise Trump forevermore if he cuts him a break. Trump has pardoned people for much less.

I hope I'm wrong, but I have very low confidence that key people will do the right thing.

Well, it's one thing to pardon people and another to interfere with the extradition process.

This administration is full of people who suck at their job. They're lazy, incompetent and wholly unqualified. If they try to actually get anything done, the results are a shoddy mess. The reflecting pool disaster is a prime example for this.

It's also most likely how they got the Tates release in the first place: they just had their ambassador bully Romania into letting them go. They didn't follow any procedure, just told them do this, or else.

That's why Trump likes pardons so much. Pardons are easy: someone gives him money and he puts his name on something. No actual work involved. He's done that his whole life.

Blocking the extradition of the Tate brothers on the other hand would require finding someone who understands how the process works, putting together a legal argument and then going to the right judge to file a complaint. That's actual work, Trump's not going to do that.

It's more likely that he'll order federal officials to just stop complying with the extradition, but that would be so far outside of the legal boundaries that it would be guaranteed to blow up in his face. The Tates probably aren't worth that much to him.

 

[GoblinCampFollower]

Well, it's one thing to pardon people and another to interfere with the extradition process.

This administration is full of people who suck at their job. They're lazy, incompetent and wholly unqualified. If they try to actually get anything done, the results are a shoddy mess. The reflecting pool disaster is a prime example for this.

It's also most likely how they got the Tates release in the first place: they just had their ambassador bully Romania into letting them go. They didn't follow any procedure, just told them do this, or else.

That's why Trump likes pardons so much. Pardons are easy: someone gives him money and he puts his name on something. No actual work involved. He's done that his whole life.

Blocking the extradition of the Tate brothers on the other hand would require finding someone who understands how the process works, putting together a legal argument and then going to the right judge to file a complaint. That's actual work, Trump's not going to do that.

It's more likely that he'll order federal officials to just stop complying with the extradition, but that would be so far outside of the legal boundaries that it would be guaranteed to blow up in his face. The Tates probably aren't worth that much to him.

On the contrary:

1) They are REALLY good at bullying. An actual legal argument isn't as important compared to that. At this point they have a long history of sometimes winning with total dogshit legal arguments because of this. Trump will lose court cases if the relevant judge or officials are at all strong and principled. ...but it's been shown he is extremely effective at bullying many officials into submission. ...not just in the USA.

2) Trump seems extremely confident at this point that consequences don't apply to him at all.

Once again, I'd be thrilled to be wrong, but I think you are overestimating the importance of them "making sense."''

 

[Innula Zenovka]

Blocking the extradition of the Tate brothers on the other hand would require finding someone who understands how the process works, putting together a legal argument and then going to the right judge to file a complaint. That's actual work, Trump's not going to do that.

Blocking the extradition would be very simple. The extradition request shouldn't trouble the courts for long since in this case there's nothing complex or unusual to decide, so it's no more than a matter of checking the paperwork. The UK's current extradition treaty with the US is 20 years old, so both sides understand each other's requirements. Extradition from ECHR countries, such as the UK, to the US is more complicated than from the US to the UK because the US legal and penal systems have all sorts of human rights issues, as we saw with the Assange case, and we sometimes also refuse on health or dual criminality grounds (i.e. the conduct alleged on the indictment doesn't amount to a criminal offence in the UK).

There's no question about whether the treaty covers the alleged offences or whether the Tate brothers currently in custody are the same men named in the indictment. The Crown Prosecution Service's test (is the evidence sufficient for a reasonable jury, properly instructed about the law in the case, to convict, if they accept the prosecution case?) meets the US test of probable cause, and there's no external exculpatory evidence available (the brothers were not, for example, in custody at the time of the alleged offences).

The credibility of the prosecution case is a matter for the English court and jury, not the US court, as is the Tate brother's defence.

However, once the court approves the request, it must then also be approved by the Secretary of State, currently Marco Rubio. His decision is final. So if Trump wants to block it, he simply has to make his wish known to Rubio, who (at least on present form) will presumably meekly agree. End of story.

However, the current extradition treaty was signed in 2003. Since then, the US Secretary of State has approved 87 British requests and refused only one, that in the case of Anne Sacoolas, whom the UK wanted to try for causing the death of Harry Dunn by dangerous driving, and, at least at present, the White House and Rubio have both indicated they don't intend to intervene on behalf of the Tates.

White House says will not block Tate brothers’ extradition to UK

Social media influencers to be extradited after UK authorities file dozens of new sex crime charges against them.

www.aljazeera.com

That can change, of course, but I suspect that Trump and his advisors are reasoning that the Tates' supporters will soon forgive him for handing them over to the British criminal justice system (he probably believes, with reason, he could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot both brothers without losing any of his hardline MAGA fanatics) and that the last thing he needs right now is to stir up a domestic and international controversy about protecting yet more alleged prolific rapists, sex traffickers and creators of CSAM who aren't even connected to Jeffrey Epstein.

 

[GoblinCampFollower]

That can change, of course, but I suspect that Trump and his advisors are reasoning that the Tates' supporters will soon forgive him for handing them over to the British criminal justice system (he probably believes, with reason, he could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot both brothers without losing any of his hardline MAGA fanatics) and that the last thing he needs right now is to stir up a domestic and international controversy about protecting yet more alleged prolific rapists, sex traffickers and creators of CSAM who aren't even connected to Jeffrey Epstein.

Your reasoning is of course sound, but we all know how erratic and irrational the evil Cheeto can be. I'm of course very hopeful they will leave them to rot. It's the right moral thing to do, and it will be SOOO SWEET watching the melt downs of their fans.

 

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Rent. Free.

 

[Ellie]

Rent. Free.

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