Nobody Cares about yet another assassination attempt

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The issue isn’t whether it was staged or not, it’s more that no one cares either way, and that so many believe it isn’t far fetched for your government to do such a thing. It’s the total collapse of trust people have of their government, on whatever side your on. It’s the way people aren’t even shocked anymore when a gunman attempts to shoot your elected leader (or enters a school).

Even if Republicans lose the next election, without a dramatic change in how the government works, and who owns traditional media, or maybe I should say, who owns the government, how can all this continue to function when no one believes their own leaders?
I'm not so much worried about the collapse of trust in government as the collapse in critical thinking. I don't trust the US government to tell the truth about anything, but I don't assume they must necessarily be lying, either.

My problem is that that -- at least to my mind -- the false flag theory doesn't seem credible, simply because I can believe "Cole Allen was prepared to go to prison for a long time, and possibly even to get shot, in order to assassinate Trump and other members of the administration" far more readily than "Cole Allen was prepared to go to prison for a long time, and possibly even to get shot, in order to distract people from Iran and the Epstein files and to help Trump get his ballroom built" or "Cole Allen was manipulated, without his knowledge, into what he seriously intended to be an assassination attempt when, in fact, the whole thing was a charade manipulated by secret puppet masters behind the scenes for their ulterior motives".

"The US government is, for its own purposes, opportunistically manipulating the truth about what actually happened" (which seems a perfectly credible account of what we're seeing) does not necessarily mean "The US government was behind the whole thing from start to finish" (which seems utterly fanciful and doesn't stand up to a minute's serious consideration).
 

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There’s no collapse of critical thinking, it’s never been that great

Appearances are often more powerful than the truth. That’s why propaganda works
 

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That's what I meant. I can see why Cole Allen would knowingly put himself at risk of death or imprisonment if it was a genuine assassination attempt.

I don't, though, see why he would have voluntarily and knowingly participated in a staged attempt, since he would know that could only end badly for him.

That seems to me a major problem that any "false flag" theory needs to address.
Assuming the secret service agents there were in on it (I know, it's a hell of a reach, but nothing about Trump's administration can be ruled out completely), then Cole's life wouldn't have actually been in danger. And if he faced charges, Trump could simply pardon him.

About the Secret Service detail... I'm having a really hard time grappling the fact that an agent fired at Cole five times at close range and didn't even so much as graze him. In fact, I'm hearing that the agent who got shot was a victim of "friendly fire." Did these agents train with storm troopers?
 
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About the Secret Service detail... I'm having a really hard time grappling the fact that an agent fired at Cole five times at close range and didn't even so much as graze him. In fact, I'm hearing that the agent who got shot was a victim of "friendly fire." Did these agents train with storm troopers?
No one with any ounce of competence wants to "take a bullet" for the orange idiot.
 

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About the Secret Service detail... I'm having a really hard time grappling the fact that an agent fired at Cole five times at close range and didn't even so much as graze him. In fact, I'm hearing that the agent who got shot was a victim of "friendly fire." Did these agents train with storm troopers?
No one with any ounce of competence wants to "take a bullet" for the orange idiot.

Meanwhile, in the courts...

He is suddenly really desperate for this ballroom and I really wonder why. Best case (for Trump) scenario it gets built and the next administration rennovates it into offixe space and renames it.
 
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No one with any ounce of competence wants to "take a bullet" for the orange idiot.


He is suddenly really desperate for this ballroom and I really wonder why. Best case (for Trump) scenario it gets built and the next administration rennovates it into offixe space and renames it.
 

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I've seen a photo of the event (just after the shots are heard in the ballroom). Trump is sitting on the dais with a flat expression while everyone around him look shocked or scared. It's been pushed as proof the shooting was staged since Trump appears unfazed, but watching video of the moment, it actually appears Trump is just bewildered by a trick the mentalist was performing for them at the time.
 
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If this is a conspiracy, I don't understand what Cole Allen's role in is supposed to be. He can't have been in on it, because then he'd knowingly have put himself at risk of a long prison sentence (and, if something went wrong, getting killed during the staged attack).

In order to stage this, the conspirators needed to know and orchestrate Allen's plans. So how on earth did they manage it?
Based on a reading of the charges, along with ridiculous statements from Todd Blanche regarding "sometimes bullets just disappear" and the fact that the only injury appears to be friendly fire, I don't think Cole fired a gun at all. There are many ways this all could have been arranged for show, with his involvement. What motivation would he have? I don't know, but nothing about this convinces me it was not staged, especially having seen the security video and the lack of charges that allege he actually fired a gun. Additionally, there is the convenient manifesto. We have no idea if it was actually written by Cole or not. This administration deserves zero benefit of the doubt. They literally lie about everything.
 

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What about the guy eating his salad while everyone hit the ground? Was that during the same illusion trick, or is he another non keen enough?
 

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What about the guy eating his salad while everyone hit the ground? Was that during the same illusion trick
He may have been an illusion.
 

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What about the guy eating his salad while everyone hit the ground? Was that during the same illusion trick, or is he another non keen enough?
He was just really hungry.
 

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Ah, you got it backwards. That just means he needed to eat moar, no stopping.

Like how cows are constantly chewing.
 
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What motivation would he have? I don't know, but nothing about this convinces me it was not staged, especially having seen the security video and the lack of charges that allege he actually fired a gun. Additionally, there is the convenient manifesto. We have no idea if it was actually written by Cole or not. This administration deserves zero benefit of the doubt. They literally lie about everything.
You ask "what motivation would he have?" In his letter he explains
On to why I did any of this:

I am a citizen of the United States of America.

What my representatives do reflects on me.

And I am no longer willing to permit a pedophile, rapist, and traitor to coat my hands with his crimes.

That is, he thought the US would be a better place without Donald Trump and his enablers in charge.

It might not be a particularly persuasive explanation, but to my mind it's a view shared by many and no less comprehensible than the reasons given by the shooters at the Tree of Life synagogue, the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church or the Pulse nightclub.

On the subject of motives, what possible reason could he have for agreeing to participate in a fake attempt, knowing that if it didn't result in his death, it would at least almost certainly end up with him in prison for a very long time? That seems to me a major problem with all these false flag theories -- why on earth would he go along with them?

We'll see what happens at his trial, I guess, but somehow I doubt his defence is going to be that it was all a hoax.