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Terraform Mars or Venus? We are currently in the process of terraforming Earth. It's not going well....
Well yes, but we're talking DISTANT hypotheticals. I don't think anybody here thinks it's happening anytime soon, if at all. To clarify my earlier comment you face palmed to, it's just fun to talk about hypotheticals. I actually do think we'll probably wipe ourselves out first.
 
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Well yes, but we're talking DISTANT hypotheticals. I don't think anybody here thinks it's happening anytime soon, if at all. To clarify my earlier comment you face palmed to, it's just fun to talk about hypotheticals. I actually do think we'll probably wipe ourselves out first.
Yes, but they're so far-fetched and would take millenia (at least) to achieve even if we had the technology, they might just as well decide what they really need is, first, find a genie in a lamp who'll grant them three wishes about fixing up either Mars or Venus to their requirements, and then start debating what to ask the genie should they ever find the lamp.
 
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This is mostly true. If we have the tech to terraform Mars, we can fix any kind of environmental disaster on Earth.
Also if you can build a self-sustaining habitat and infrastructure that can survive on present Mars long enough to turn it into Blue Mars, it's actually easier and safer to build habitats inside a tunnel in Ceres.

This would have been a while back, probably in the 90s in a popular science type magazine.
I got an actual glossy book from the NASA store published by NASA about it when I first visited the US in the late 70s.
 

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Yes, but they're so far-fetched and would take millenia (at least) to achieve even if we had the technology, they might just as well decide what they really need is, first, find a genie in a lamp who'll grant them three wishes about fixing up either Mars or Venus to their requirements, and then start debating what to ask the genie should they ever find the lamp.
My earlier posts in this thread were mostly to talk about why Musk's predictions were hilariously absurd. I think we agree on that. But with this post I think you are taking it too far in the other direction. I have no idea what humanity might be able to do 1000 years from now in the unlikely event we don't wipe out our civilization first.
 

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It's like the whole "build a generation ship to settle a planet in another star system" is a silly idea. If the generation ship is still functional when you get to the other end of the journey and it hasn't turned into the Aniara, it's proved you don't actually need planets.
 

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The possibility of this makes me sick to my stomach.

With Elon Musk, controversy and public relations campaigns often chase one another. He seems to like it that way. Just days after his Grok chatbot made headlines for generating antisemitic content and praise for the Nazis, the billionaire announced he wants the same AI to help raise your children.

Elon Musk’s latest AI announcement was not about building a more powerful, all knowing intelligence. Instead, it was about creating a smaller, safer one.

“We’re going to make Baby Grok @xAI,” he posted on X (formerly Twitter) on July 20, adding, “an app dedicated to kid friendly content.”
Baby MechaHitler. Just great.
 

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Elon Musk, the rightwing culture warrior waging a “civilization-saving” battle against the “woke mind virus,” apparently isn’t above taking advantage of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) programs when it serves his business purposes. Neuralink, the brain implant startup that Musk founded that was recently reported to be valued at $9 billion, characterized itself as a “small disadvantaged business” in a federal filing with the Small Business Administration.

The SBA website notes that Neuralink attested in its filings that it is a “Self-Certified Small Disadvantaged Business.”
lol!
According to the SBA, businesses can qualify for this designation if the company is “51% or more owned and controlled by one or more disadvantaged persons.” The firm must also “be small, according to SBA’s size standards,” the site states. According to the code of federal regulations, socially disadvantaged people are defined thusly:

…those who have been subjected to racial or ethnic prejudice or cultural bias within American society because of their identities as members of groups and without regard to their individual qualities. The social disadvantage must stem from circumstances beyond their control.
Billionaires are certainly a minority that endure a great deal of prejudice in the US, amirite?
 

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They're starting to ask the important questions.

Is Elon Musk’s Starship Doomed? The future of SpaceX keeps blowing up, and no one knows if he can fix it.
On a bright spring morning in 2023, SpaceX’s first fully assembled Starship launch vehicle stood at its launchpad in Boca Chica, Texas, ready for its debut.
Then, four minutes after takeoff, the unmanned rocket blew up. The eruption of white smoke was met not with stunned silence, but whoops and cheers like you might hear at a fireworks finale. “This was a development test; this was the first test flight of Starship,” explained one of the live-broadcast presenters. “And the goal was to gather the data, as we said, clear the pad, and get ready to go again.” Mission accomplished.
“Fail fast and fail often” is the Silicon Valley mantra. Make a lot of mistakes quickly so you can learn and leapfrog the competition. By that metric, the Starships have performed swimmingly over the past two years. No. 2 managed to separate from the booster, then blew up. No. 3 disintegrated on reentry. Nos. 4, 5, and 6 made it to space and splashed down in the ocean, but No. 7 exploded 11 minutes after liftoff. No. 8 spun out of control. No. 9 suffered a fuel leak and disintegrated on reentry. No. 10 exploded on the launchpad.

You don’t hear as much cheering anymore.
 

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Please note for future annoyance that I DID NOT ASK THE FUCKING QUESTION Kamilah is answering above. Thank you for your attention in this matter.
 

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It's like a cross between the Spruce Goose and the Caproni Ca60. Except for 33 engines instead of half a dozen.
I would have added "with a sprinkle of DeLorean DMC-12", but that already went into the Cybertruck.
 

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It's like a cross between the Spruce Goose and the Caproni Ca60. Except for 33 engines instead of half a dozen.
I had to look up the Caproni ca.60. OMG. You've provided my morning's entertainment.

Calling it a bad idea is insufficient. It is like some sort of drunken assault on the laws of aerodynamics, not to mention esthetics. Those aerodynamic laws were pretty well understood by 1921, when they built the ungainly contraption, but anyone who has stood behind a wall to get out of the wind can at least suspect that those front wings are going to reduce the air flow over the middle wings, and that the rear wings will be in even worse shape.* I did about 30 seconds of research to determine that by 1921 the triplane concept was a dead duck for reasons directly related to this and this is a ....a ....is there even a word? Nonaplane? This picture suggests the designer knew this, too -- those things that look like office dividers in the rear wing must be the rudders. It looks like there are about a dozen of them! They must have built a model and quickly found out yaw was almost impossible to control without huge amounts of control surface.



It is so obviously unworkable it makes me wonder if, as I suspect SpaceX is, it was a sort of Producers style investment scam.

Almost unbelievably, it actually achieved some sort of very brief successful flight. Once. The second time it wisely stuffed itself into the lake and that was that.

* In fact, as I look at it, the thing is actually designed to attempt to fly in its own wake turbulence. :facepalm:

** It is weird how much aeronautical engineering one picks up just by living for 20+ years in a Boeing engineer neighborhood!
 

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That's more research than I ever did on that plane which I first encountered in some book of horrible ideas when I was knee-high to an autobot.
 

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I had to look up the Caproni ca.60. OMG. You've provided my morning's entertainment.

Calling it a bad idea is insufficient. It is like some sort of drunken assault on the laws of aerodynamics, not to mention esthetics. Those aerodynamic laws were pretty well understood by 1921, when they built the ungainly contraption, but anyone who has stood behind a wall to get out of the wind can at least suspect that those front wings are going to reduce the air flow over the middle wings, and that the rear wings will be in even worse shape.* I did about 30 seconds of research to determine that by 1921 the triplane concept was a dead duck for reasons directly related to this and this is a ....a ....is there even a word? Nonaplane? This picture suggests the designer knew this, too -- those things that look like office dividers in the rear wing must be the rudders. It looks like there are about a dozen of them! They must have built a model and quickly found out yaw was almost impossible to control without huge amounts of control surface.



It is so obviously unworkable it makes me wonder if, as I suspect SpaceX is, it was a sort of Producers style investment scam.

Almost unbelievably, it actually achieved some sort of very brief successful flight. Once. The second time it wisely stuffed itself into the lake and that was that.

* In fact, as I look at it, the thing is actually designed to attempt to fly in its own wake turbulence. :facepalm:

** It is weird how much aeronautical engineering one picks up just by living for 20+ years in a Boeing engineer neighborhood!
It looks like a flying (?) paddle steamer.
 

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Almost unbelievably, it actually achieved some sort of very brief successful flight. Once. The second time it wisely stuffed itself into the lake and that was that.
WHAT a shame because I kind of love that thing. Look at it! The cheek! I want to get one and open it as like a floating diner or something!