More Creepy Stuff Comes Out About Kavanaugh

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The thing that gives me some hope is.... Sure the FBI is limited in what they can investigate for the re-opened background check. That doesn't mean they are limited in what they can investigate for a criminal investigation.

I'd dearly love to see the arrogant ass indicted for perjury.
There is also nothing stopping state and local law enforcement from investigating crimes that happened in their jurisdiction, or passing along records they may have on persons of interest.
 

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The thing that really gets to me about this most recent development is the idea that Trump could even limit the terms of the investigation. Is that something the president can legally do? If so, it strikes me as an extremely terrible power to grant any president, let alone the orange one.
This isn't a criminal investigation *yet*. It is a background check for a job opening, which the FBI and other agencies do all the time. It could *become* a criminal investigation if they find sufficient credible witnesses or evidence. And it might not be the FBI which does the criminal case, since rape and other sex offenses are usually under state law. Once it becomes a criminal investigation, trying to stop it would be obstruction of justice, and you can be sure that Mueller & co. are watching with interest.
 

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Am I correct in thinking that if the FBI suspect that any of the people they've interviewed during this stage of the background check may be lying, or may have lied to them on a previous occasion, it then potentially becomes a criminal matter (lying to the FBI, to which several people whom Mueller interviewed have entered guilty pleas) and can therefore trigger a criminal investigation completely separate from the background check?
 

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There is also nothing stopping state and local law enforcement from investigating crimes that happened in their jurisdiction, or passing along records they may have on persons of interest.
Speculation why they want to ram Kavanaugh in there so fast:
Gamble v. United States - Wikipedia
The case has been analyzed in the context of the Special Counsel investigation into the Trump campaign; if the separate sovereigns doctrine is overturned, a pardon of federal charges from Donald Trump may prevent state prosecution.
eta: heard from a lolyer, this isn't a reason to oppose the Kavanaugh nomination. Also a diverse lot would rather it gone, like, the ACLU and the CATO Institute.
 
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Mueller can limit what he charges people for, and leave something for later state prosecution.
 
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The thing that really gets to me about this most recent development is the idea that Trump could even limit the terms of the investigation. Is that something the president can legally do? If so, it strikes me as an extremely terrible power to grant any president, let alone the orange one.
No. That was part of why it was so scandalous.

He would probably argue they are his employees but that is a grade school understanding of how they relate to him.
 

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In case you missed it btw, I guess SNL made fun of the Kavenaugh hearings with a sketch - as I suppose could be expected. Matt Damon portrayed the ragey Kavenaugh, and by all accounts he really nailed it - but it's a rather awkward casting decision given that when #MeToo kicked off IIRC Matt Damon complained about it being an overreaction and whined that people "aren't giving enough praise to the guys who don't rape".
 
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In case you missed it btw, I guess SNL made fun of the Kavenaugh hearings with a sketch - as I suppose could be expected. Matt Damon portrayed the ragey Kavenaugh, and by all accounts he really nailed it - but it's a rather awkward casting decision given that when #MeToo kicked off IIRC Matt Damon complained about it being an overreaction and whined that people "aren't giving enough praise to the guys who don't rape".
Seems someone took him aside and said "Matt. Dude. No."

Matt Damon Apologizes for His #MeToo Comments: “I Am Really Sorry”
 

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https://nypost.com/2018/10/01/growing-number-of-us-voters-feel-kavanaugh-shouldnt-be-confirmed-poll/

Overall, women opposed confirmation of President Trump’s nominee by 55 percent to 37 percent, while men backed him by 49 percent to 40 percent.
37 percent of women in the US believe Kavanaugh is the right fit for SCOTUS. Thirty-seven percent. That's roughly one in three women in the US who support Kavanaugh despite the sexual assault allegations.

Try to wrap your head around that.
 

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In case you missed it btw, I guess SNL made fun of the Kavenaugh hearings with a sketch - as I suppose could be expected. Matt Damon portrayed the ragey Kavenaugh, and by all accounts he really nailed it - but it's a rather awkward casting decision given that when #MeToo kicked off IIRC Matt Damon complained about it being an overreaction and whined that people "aren't giving enough praise to the guys who don't rape".
On youtube for those who missed it.

 
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They also had Kanye on and he gave a pro-donnie rant after the show went off the air.
 

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I thought he'd changed his name to Prince-symbol or something.
I really would not be surprised if he was only associated with the Kardashians because his name started with a 'K'.
 

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https://nypost.com/2018/10/01/growing-number-of-us-voters-feel-kavanaugh-shouldnt-be-confirmed-poll/



37 percent of women in the US believe Kavanaugh is the right fit for SCOTUS. Thirty-seven percent. That's roughly one in three women in the US who support Kavanaugh despite the sexual assault allegations.

Try to wrap your head around that.
That's what fascist authoritarians do, they line up behind the fascist authoritarian. Kavenaugh will get rid of abortion and that's all they care about. Plus now it's more about owning the libs and winning at any cost. They could easily just get another Federalist Society douchebag up there who will do all the same things, but now Kavenaugh is their guy and being authoritarian means backing your guy no matter what.