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From the thread, t's clear this is an organised racist attack by anti-mask alt right extremists

Yeah, this same guy who recorded this: Breast cancer patient punched and insulted by activists protesting clinic’s mask policy

I hope the person who attacked Ms. Burns ends up getting the maximum amount of prison time they can give for assault.

How low can a group get, targeting people suffering from and being treated for cancer. I'm so angry, my hands are shaking as I type this. :anger::shakefist:
 

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Cancer's different for everyone, of course, and I can speak only from my own experience, but I think whatever you expect cancer to be like, it isn't, and most of the time I was in a place where protestors wouldn't have worried me too much.

Probably the morphine and fentanyl would have helped a lot, since they leave you sufficiently detached to function, while at the same time making pretty seriously unpleasant stuff like radiotherapy to the throat feel like little more than a minor inconvenience, but while you're undergoing treatment you have very particular concerns and coping strategies that you develop for yourself, I think, because you have to.

At the time, as I recall, I was a serious biohazard, really, because the drugs used in chemotherapy were so toxic they had to wheel me round the hospital complete with a special mop up kit for poisons, in case my drip came off and splashed over people.

Certainly my blood and urine were hazardous, I was told (to the extent that was given strict instructions, despite my age and single status, in quite graphic detail about the dos and don't of certain practices I'd hitherto encountered only in SL. The nurse apologised when I told I was flattered but I didn't think this part of the advice was necessary, but she insisted).

Protestors? They should remember that plenty of cancer patients have their own bioweapons with them at all times, and some patients, because of their anatomy, have the means to deploy them close to hand at all times, as it were.
 
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They are attacking women and minorites. As well as the mechanisms of democracy. That is their motive and their goal. For white men to maintain control and to keep others "in their place."

It is also no accident that they are using the language of the Civil Rights movement to do it. They are trying to claim that they are the real victims of the injustices that they would perpetrate on others.
 

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Cancer's different for everyone, of course, and I can speak only from my own experience, but I think whatever you expect cancer to be like, it isn't, and most of the time I was in a place where protestors wouldn't have worried me too much.

Probably the morphine and fentanyl would have helped a lot, since they leave you sufficiently detached to function, while at the same time making pretty seriously unpleasant stuff like radiotherapy to the throat feel like little more than a minor inconvenience, but while you're undergoing treatment you have very particular concerns and scoping strategies that you develop for yourself, I think, because you have to.

At the time, as I recall, I was a serious biohazard, really, because the drugs used in chemotherapy were so toxic they had to wheel me round the hospital complete with a special mop up kit for poisons, in case my drip came off and splashed over people.

Certainly my blood and urine were hazardous, I was told (to the extent that was given strict instructions, despite my age and single status, in quite graphic detail about the dos and don't of certain practices I'd hitherto encountered only in SL. The nurse apologised when I told I was flattered but I didn't think this part of the advice was necessary, but she insisted).

Protestors? They should remember that plenty of cancer patients have their own bioweapons with them at all times, and some patients, because of their anatomy, have the means to deploy them close to hand at all times, as it were.
Well, I hope the slime who punched that woman in her surgery scars got a nice dose of biohazard, then. But either way, i hope the victim sues her attacker for every penny she's got, and the cops for telling an assault victim to "disperse" instead of helping.
And hugs to you for having gone through your ordeal.
 
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How the Chinese are solving the not wearing of masks in public ... :)

 

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Even allowing for journalistic exaggeration and the fact it's The Daily Beast, this sounds extraordinary.


Can this man's activities be lawful in the US? What he's doing would break all sorts of laws over here, but I'm used to US criminal law being a bit exceptional.
 

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Even allowing for journalistic exaggeration and the fact it's The Daily Beast, this sounds extraordinary.


Can this man's activities be lawful in the US? What he's doing would break all sorts of laws over here, but I'm used to US criminal law being a bit exceptional.
I am not a lawyer, but I think it skirts as close to the law as possible. "Fighting words", incitement to violence, etc, are typically called upon only when there is a direct threat of violence. Hate speech is not illegal, although when it is used in combination with actual physical violence it can affect how a person is charged.

It might be this way because the political right always wants to keep violence within their playbook as an option, usually not as a direct option but indirectly by edging on independent actors. Police pick up on this by their different treatment of left/right protestors.
 
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I am not a lawyer, but I think it skirts as close to the law as possible. "Fighting words", incitement to violence, etc, are typically called upon only when there is a direct threat of violence. Hate speech is not illegal, although when it is used in combination with actual physical violence it can affect how a person is charged.

It might be this way because the political right always wants to keep violence within their playbook as an option, usually not as a direct option but indirectly by edging on independent actors. Police pick up on this by their different treatment of left/right protestors.
Here's some chapter headings from the book we have ready to throw at people like Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon (aka "Tommy Robinson"), or this tomahawk chap if he ever visits, to keep them, if not quiet, more or less on the leash:


And that's for what they get up to at their keyboard. If they take it to meatspace we've got lots more books to use as ammunition.

I'd go after the lot of them for harassment, if I had my way -- the way the law is here, anyone participating in a social media pile-on is potentially looking at a short prison sentence, even if they're not the organisers.

That provision is rarely used, but it comes in very handy at times, and this would almost certainly be one of them.

(Not recommending if for the US, but I have to say that I'm glad we have it, just as I'm glad we don't allow idiots to form patriotic militias and parade round with firearms -- I'm a dreadful tory, in the C18th sense of the word).
 
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I almost didn't read past the headline/picture. It sounds like they're praising the motherforker, for fork's sake (sorry, couldn't resist).
I believe it. We've had the "shaman"with his buffalo hat and face paint, why not a tomahawk?
And his language is nothing new for "the right".
Stochastic terrorism at the least, and if not "fighting words", a "true threat".
I bet he read the law on criminal threats in his state.
But with his followers outright threatening stalking which is more clearly illegal, it can spiral or if his control easily. When it does, I hope the school boards don't get hurt, but I wouldn't mind if he does.