#JAILTOTHECHIEF- Shit Just Got Real

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Interesting times or "history does not repeat, but it does rhyme."

1776:2018 Though the Parliament and the Congress are not at the other's throat as they were in 1776, there does seem to be a switching of roles over the centuries (as one would expect). In 1776, Parliament and Congress were dealing with a periodically insane king; in 2018, Congress is dealing (badly) with a constantly insane president.
 
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This is smocking madness!


As a side note, my phone tried autocorrecting "smocking" to "smoking". Maybe it's time for Cheetolini to switch phones. ;)
 
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In 1776, Parliament and Congress were dealing with a periodically insane king; in 2018, Congress is dealing (badly) with a constantly insane president.
I'm sorry but I don't think that analogy works, at least not in historical terms. George III's mental health problems (or maybe porphyria) first became an issue in 1788--89, and then he recovered until 1810, when he became permanently insane and the Prince of Wales became Prince Regent until George's death in 1820.

Certainly in the years leading up to the Declaration of Independence and immediately afterwards, George seems to have been perfectly sane.
 

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I'm sorry but I don't think that analogy works, at least not in historical terms. George III's mental health problems (or maybe porphyria) first became an issue in 1788--89, and then he recovered until 1810, when he became permanently insane and the Prince of Wales became Prince Regent until George's death in 1820.

Certainly in the years leading up to the Declaration of Independence and immediately afterwards, George seems to have been perfectly sane.
I may be mistaken, but if I remember correctly it was Parliament who went insane, treating good, decent Englishmen like the Scots and the Irish filth. Certainly something changed between 1760 and 1776; it wasn't just taxes, it was an attitude issue. Or maybe it was just the propertied classes in New England growing too big for their britches; it's always dangerous to tax the wealthy, what with their sense of entitlement, connections, and resources. Wasn't the revolution centered around the commercial hub?

Sorry, I have an embarrassing knowledge gap I need to fill ... head too full of school-room propaganda, not enough truth. Any good book recommendations?
 
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It may have been we cost a shitload of money during the French and Indian wars (1754 to 1763) and refused to contribute towards defending the colonies. Keeping an Empire was getting expensive. That led to stricter enforcement of mercantilist policies, efforts to collect taxes from the colonies, and hard feelings on both sides. Then Britain had the unmitigated gall to stop the British colonists from invading the Ohio Valley which was full of friendly tribes (to the British army and French Canadian traders if not to Atlantic colonists) and picking on the Catholics in Canada and Florida.
 

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I've got schadenfreude coming out of my ears reading all these stories, and I don't care who knows it. Now what I really want is for someone to do a really lowdown blues song with every stanza or at least the chorus ending, "in the Southern District of New York".

ETA: I did one pretty crappy verse just as an illustration.

Your stories keep changing
You're hidin' what's true
But now folks are talkin'
And it all* comes back on you
That bottle's opened and the genie lost the cork
In the Southern District of New York

*b-i-i-g wail on 'all'
 
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I've got schadenfreude coming out of my ears reading all these stories, and I don't care who knows it. Now what I really want is for someone to do a really lowdown blues song with every stanza or at least the chorus ending, "in the Southern District of New York".
Not schadenfreude, but love of justice.

Well maybe both.
 
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I want to believe there's hard proof but... Palmer Report.

PS: VV1 seems to be unsubscribing me from threads if I don't comment in them often enough. Is there a way to turn that off so I can follow a thread I'm interested in mostly reading?

PPS: So I just heard on the radio how tightening the southern border increases net undocumented immigration because migrants quit going back South between work seasons and are more likely to want to bring their family North.
 

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The delusions continue:
Trump says ‘the people would revolt’ if he were impeached | Washington Post

President Trump commented on impeachment Tuesday, claiming he’s unconcerned by the possibility and positing that “the people would revolt if that happened.”

The remark came during a White House interview with Reuters, his first since federal prosecutors in New York filed a sentencing memo for Michael Cohen, Trump’s former personal attorney.

"It’s hard to impeach somebody who hasn’t done anything wrong and who’s created the greatest economy in the history of our country,” said Trump.
 
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