#JAILTOTHECHIEF- Shit Just Got Real

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FU donnie. FU. While DC's mayor is doing all she can do the city is intertwined with federal areas, like parks, and he refuses to close everything. So even though a lot of locals are doing the right thing we have crowds near us. The virus does not respect jurisdictions.
 

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I think part of the problem is that people like this guy and his constituents simply don't yet understand the nightmare that awaits them, their families and friends, and their constituents.

As far as I can tell from what I read, a lot of commentators in the US who favour this approach are seeing Covid-19 simply as a particularly nasty form of flu which carries with it a high risk of death for older patients but will be, for most people, a very unpleasant and debilitating episode from which they will nevertheless recover.

That's true as far as it goes, but they aren't considering the full implications of all this.

This table shows the data to date about Covid-19 patients in the US who require hospitalisation:



Severe Outcomes Among Patients with Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19

Certainly the figures in the right-hand column, for case-fatality, suggest that the mortality rate for the disease increases dramatically with age, but the two central columns, for patients requiring hospitalisation and for patients requiring treatment in an ICU, tell a very different story -- that is, even if you're aged between 20 and 44, there's a 14% -- 20% chance you'll require hospital treatment, at the very least.

That is, to my mind, a not insignificant risk at the best of times, and this is not, of course, the best of times by a long way, since all these patients represent a demand for hospital care in addition to the regular demands placed on hospitals, at a time when the hospitals will be running with far fewer doctors, nurses, technicians and other medical staff than normal, as they fall ill from the disease.

And, of course, this similarly affects everyone who requires hospital treatment for something completely unrelated to Covid-19, since the increased pressure on hospital resources will affect them equally, with the added risk that, which in hospital, they'll themselves catch the disease, thus adding to their problems.

So it's not simply a matter of the grandparents selflessly sacrificing themselves so their children and grandchildren can avoid worst of the economic effects caused by a shut-down -- effects that are coming anyway, to a greater or lesser extent, because of the effects of the disease on customers and on the workforce -- but of everyone being forced, if the protective measures are lifted too soon (or not imposed at all), to cope with the devastating effects of the disease on anyone requiring hospital treatment for anything over the next few months.

I'm sure that this chap in Texas simply hasn't thought that through, any more than has Trump thought through -- or listened to anyone who's told him -- what US hospitals are going to look like come Easter.
 

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They still had any in stock after that verbal diarrhea? That person certainly does not speak for their entire age cohort.
In an era when most people were farmers, pitchforks and torches were the easiest things to grab for a peasant uprising. Today it would be firearms and gasoline with lighters. If you really want a pitchfork-like device to poke people with, just duct-tape a large kitchen knife to a broomstick.
 
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The Trump Organisation is really hurting from the pandemic because of its heavy, very highly geared, investment in the hotel, club and leisure industries.
Another Story about that: https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/real-estate/with-economy-sinking-trumps-own-business-is-in-peril

As if presiding over the threatened destruction of the US economy by the coronavirus pandemic is not enough, President Donald Trump is watching another financial drama: the Trump Organization hotel, golf course and real estate business that made him a billionaire. His five-star US and Canada hotels with more than 2,200 rooms are mostly empty, his golf courses in the United States, Scotland and Ireland are under pressure to close, and his cherished "Southern White House" - the beach-front Mar-a-Lago club in Palm Beach, Florida is shuttered.
That's the real reason he wants the country to re-open so soon. He's going bankrupt (again). Fortunately it is not his decision. It is up to the states, counties, and cities as to when to relax restrictions. The City of Atlanta imposed a "stay at home" order the other day. The county of which it is part closed all schools, parks, libraries, courts, and their own offices. Nothing Donnie says will change that.